The Upgrade to v5.7 is Complete (as far as I can tell)
Just completed the update, it went pretty well. I am glad I did a dry run a week ago, Drupal is free and sometimes, like when doing upgrades, it works about as well as you'd expect something free to work.
There are a few minor issues, the Links across the top of the page don't work and the formatting in the "Recent Diaries" block on the right is a little off. You will also need to reset your default view (# of comments per page, threaded or flat, forward or reverse date order).
I'd appreciate it if everyone could use this diary to post any problems or unexpected actions that they see over the next few days.
Also, feel free to post requests or suggestions, since corky volunteered and he appears to know a lot more about PHP and CSS than I do so we should be able to implement more ideas. I will say that I'm trying to stay away from extensive customization as it makes maintenance and upgrades more difficult. The good news is that v5.7 has a lot more features available, and even more so with v6.1. The upgrade to v6.1 is at least 2 months away, and I'd actually guess closer to 6 months based on how fast some key modules have been advancing.
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EDIT: I've been noticing some strange login issues on my account, please let me know if anyone else is seeing similar issues.
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The html code shortcuts that were formerly accessible from the reply window are not currently enabled. They were very helpful. Any chance they can be reintroduced?
And thanks again to both you and Corky.
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)it's easy to enable, the only issue is which module to use out of the several that are available.
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| parent )I write occasionally for an online newsmagazine, and was hoping to add some of forvm's comments as a flavour of views from the US on various issues - with attributions, of course.
Is that legally OK?
Edit: I'm trying to get some of my acquaintances in China to comment on here. I think they have a very different perspective.
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)it's very interesting to have a non-US point of view here, if you could encourage friends from other nations to post here it would be even more awesome.
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| parent )describes their licensing, that was put in at the start of the site and I need to look into it. My guess is that we'd pick a license that allows copying with attribution but doesn't allow modification, i.e. you can quote whatever you want from the site as long as you give attribution and don't change it. I'll look into it and maybe post a diary about the choices with a poll to enable voting.
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| parent )Perhaps someone else already reported it, and I missed it so forgive me is this is a repeat.
I use both Firefox and Opera for various purposes, but in both, the user navigation window on the upper right is always labeled with the last person to comment rather than the logged in user name.
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)you can scan this diary to see more details. I filed a bug report at drupal.org, but so far no responses.
It's just a cosmetic bug, you're actually still logged in as you, it just displays the wrong username. I haven't found any help or similar bugs yet, since we may get snow here tomorrow I should have some free time to work on it.
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| parent )In that if I click on one items like My account it will say, "access denied" when another user name is displayed. Or right now as I wrote this, Weyland's name is displayed and if I click on "My Blog" it goes to one of Weyland's diaries.
I know you've got too much to do so don't worry I'm not complaining, just wanted to let you know about it.
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| parent )it's not taken as criticism. And honestly, until there are more volunteers I don't really care if it is criticism. Corky seems to know a lot more about these newfangled web server thingies, so hopefully he'll rescue the site from my clumsy ministrations.
The workaround is to click on "Save Settings" in the "Comment Viewing Options" box - clicking on that once or twice seems to set the menu back to the proper username.
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| parent )I see that the automatic formatting icons on the comments box have vanished - not a great loss since I think I can manage the simple format stuff: but does the new version mean that we must use the square-bracket "url=..." formatting for links?
Or will the traditional bracket <> "a href=" still work?
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)the current version (v5.7) is transitional, we will be moving to v6 as soon as it supports more of the modules we need and is more stable. I'm also planning to redo the theme of the site, basing it on the default theme in v5 and v6. My goal is to keep the site as simple as possible, as easily maintainable as possible, and as easily upgradeable as possible (mostly so if I get hit by a bus others won't have too much trouble picking up where I left off). Corky has been kind enough to offer his help, at this point I'm trying to get the v6 test version up and running so he and I can work on it and come up with an easy modification tracking log (mostly to help with future upgrades). Therefore, I'm not planning on doing a lot of enhancing to the current version, I just want to keep it working well enough so that it doesn't drive people too crazy over the next several months.
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| parent )in comments now. I always thought that BBCODE url was an untidy mess.
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| parent )Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080311 Firefox/2.0.0.13
-- ugh, seems to work now, not sure why it stopped failing.
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)from checking out the sitemeter.
Has the Vista rollout being that dramatically unsuccessful overall?
Over here the takeup has been poor. It is interesting to see the forvm's (largely technical) community has not gone for it in any significant way.
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)it came preloaded on the laptop. I use Vista or Linux on this laptop and XP on my office machine.
Those meters don't always record things properly, but I can say that every client of mine that has used Vista has hated it. I don't mind it that much, I just turn off all the Vista features and it's like a slightly slower version of XP.
There has been a lot of resistance to moving to Vista in general, especially from businesses.
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| parent )My diary "An American hero" is no longer on the front page, despite having six votes. I'm pretty sure it was on the FP before the upgrade.
Thanks again, Hank, for all the great work you do.
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)Nah, that happened before the upgrade. Probably related to thousand-year sunspot activity. :)
Your diary's back on front.
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| parent )"Quote:" at the beginning of quotes.
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)Or, no, nevermind. That's a terrible idea. :)
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| parent )The user menu at the right hand side switches my login to a different user. A few minutes ago, it had me as "hankp" - complete with some extra options that normal guys apparently don't get.
Right now, it says I'm "username", and yes, I can go to "My account" and see username's stuff. Haven't tried modifying his stuff yet...
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)it only affects the navigation menu and directory that diaries are posted in. You're actually still logged in as yourself, you can't do anything you couldn't normally do. The workaround is to click on the "save Settings" button in the Comment viewing options, that resets the session back to your name.
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| parent )Specifically I'm getting the "teeny font" for the comments/reads links on diaries.
Also the vote window is offset -- I don't have a way to post screenshots atm, but it looks kinda like this:
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)first, try logging out and clearing the cache in Firefox, exit Firefox, then restart it and log back in and see if that fixes it. I'm surprised because I'm using the same version of Firefox and having no problems.
To take a screenshot, get everything on screen the way you want it to look, then hit (ctrl)-(print scrn). Open wordpad, then click on Edit and Paste. Save the doc, then email it to me at hankp98072@yahoo.com. I'll take a look and see what I can do.
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| parent )if the Navigation menu on the right shows a different username than your own, you can always click on the "Save Settings" button in the Comment Viewing Options to reset it to your name.
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)Is that still an option in 5.7 land?
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)let me know if it works for you.
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| parent )I mean it's there!
But when I click on the vote tab for this diary, 5 users appear to have voted for it, yet the tally at the front says only 1 vote.
Am I helping you debug or just buggin' ya?
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| parent )two people voted the diary down before I fixed that bug.
There's no way you could bug me, I'm too good at ignoring things.
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| parent )knicker bocker, knicker bocker, number nine!!
... that always worked on my sibs when growing up.
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| parent )I say stuff to my friends from NJ that's worse than what I've heard blood enemies say to each other anywhere else. You're out of your league, kid.
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| parent )after posting that golfer crying like a little girl I'm feelin positively rough 'n tough tonight.
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| parent )Man, tough crowd.
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| parent )since it wasn't even possible to do so before, they just clicked in the votey-widget thing without seeing if it was up or down.
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| parent )I vote diaries up. All of them. Whenever I get the chance. I thought I voted this one up, too, but it looks like I left the chad hanging and it registered as "-1".
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| parent )Up it goes.
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| parent )Thanks for all the Hank-hours you put into this!!
Lookin real good from my end of things. Nicely done!!
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)On a mac running safari. Great job... And also for me now, no more double logging in.
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)I absolutely abhor upgrades (vs clean installs) so you are a better man than I on taking this on.
Again, keep me posted if you need any help.
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)Mac running Safari.
There seems to be a line break after each comma in the sig field though
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| parent )it really wasn't that bad, doing the dry run helped identify the problems I'd have doing the real thing, fortunately they were the same problems with the same fixes.
I'll be sending you an email later this week with the site login information, I'll add the v6 demo site to the host so we can both work on it. Ideally we'll be able to develop the new theme in its entirety so when v6 is ready to go we can do a simple upgrade and then switch to the new theme.
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| parent )Slayer of the heinous Drupal 5.6, as well as provider of antick and gelastic Web Links for our collective Conviviality, and furthermore an all-around A-Ok Guy, is, in all points of Fact, Da Man.
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)..to me. Also, why must vote totals be so Prominently displayed at all? What was wrong with the old, subtle, barely noticeable version of this function?
Just my view....and a complaint, finally!
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)just kidding. I'll get to it after I fix the more severe problems.
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| parent )....critical to the success and/or pleasurable use of a site.
I would say that I am open to other people's opinion on this, but with this current color scheme....I don't see the yellow ever working.
I also kind of liked the mystery of knot knowing what the vote totals are.
Best Wishes, Traveller
(yes, I know about the typo above....I'm thinking on it)
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| parent )and go with your instinct; men suck at color coordination due to genetic aberrations, so there is no right or wrong here. Personally I would have preferred puce because I like the name, but yellow was at least visible.
Thanks for all your help on this. Hank. U. D. Mon.
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| parent )as I've said before, this will all become academic when we move to a new theme with v6.
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| parent )for example:
http://theforvm.org/diary/%5Buser%5D/the-upgrade-to-v57-is-complete-as-f...
[user] ?
also, i just posted a diary under your path:
http://theforvm.org/diary/hankp/test
it doesn't show up as being written by you, and doesn't show up in your blog page, but I don't know if you want to allow that.
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)as best as I can tell, there's a problem with tracking user sessions, the Navigation box on the right occasionally shows a different user name. You are still limited, as far as I can tell it doesn't grant any admin rights to users, and when you post a diary or comment it comes out in your name, but it is annoying.
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| parent )the old "glitch" that required me to log in twice is gone now. Heck; I almost feel normal now when I log in. I don't know what I'm going to do with all the extra time that saves :-)
Thanks to you and Corky and anyone else involved for the great work, as usual.
Aside from what's been mentioned by others already, I noticed that (when logged out) if I click on a recent comment, the destination view doesn't frame it...I have to scroll up a bit to locate it. When logged in, that function seems OK.
--Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham
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)I think this is related to the session problem I mentioned earlier.
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| parent )to be happening now, so I'm assuming it's fixed.
Another possibility is that I wasn't really seeing what I thought I was seeing, and that I simply didn't know what I was talking about. But who's crazy enough to believe that?
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| parent )to put you in touch with one of Drupal's core coders (he's currently in Australia attending a Drupal conference of some sort). If you think it will help.
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| parent )he can contact me at hankp98072@yahoo.com.
I've posted a bug report at drupal.org here, so he can review it before getting in touch with me.
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| parent ). . .in the "Recent Comments" column are in italics, though the recent comments themselves are not. Not sure whether that is intentional or not.
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)handles some of these items differently, unless it bothers people I'll probably leave it alone since we'll be using a new theme in the next version.
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| parent )As noted, no more blogroll.
In Firefox and IE, text for links ("blog", "add comment", "reads" "votes"), and the "reply" and "quote" functions at the bottom of the posted comments are in tiny (? 4-pt. ?), virtually unreadable type - although the functions work OK.
Oddly, the "parent" link on the comments is the normal size and color.
No problems with login for me, btw: only on first load.
ALSO: No more "views" and "votes" tabs!!
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)working on tabs, the new version changes on how they are listed.
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| parent )IIRC we didn't want to have negative voting, so we should see about disabling that function if possible. Thoughts?
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| parent )got hybridized and partially homogenized at the molecular-genetic level during the transition to Drupal 5.7.
Catsyldanchy is "some kind of mutant freak supermod," but don't worry, it seems tranquil in its current developmental phase, almost as if it's brooding over something. We'll report back after further study.
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)in Firefox 2 (OSX). For example the "add new comment" at the bottom of each post. It looks better in Safari. Anyone else see that?
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| parent )and there's also some new "Reset Vote" option.
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| parent )And you too, Corky.
Question: does the capability exist now to show a list of the user's comments?
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| parent )on firefox anyway... hold on, lemme check ie.
Edit: yep, embeds don't show in ie either.
P.S. Thanks to you and corky (and whoever else) for the work...
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)When you embed a youtube, you have to pick "Full HTML" from the input formats to make them visible. I'll fix the last open thread, please remember to do this from now on.
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