The Real McCain


Frank Rich has an op-ed in yesterday's New York Times that answers the question, "Why isn't Obama leading in the polls by double digits?". LINK

So why isn’t Obama romping? The obvious answer — and both the excessively genteel Obama campaign and a too-compliant press bear responsibility for it — is that the public doesn’t know who on earth John McCain is. The most revealing poll this month by far is the Pew Research Center survey finding that 48 percent of Americans feel they’re “hearing too much” about Obama. Pew found that only 26 percent feel that way about McCain, and that nearly 4 in 10 Americans feel they hear too little about him. It’s past time for that pressing educational need to be met.

What is widely known is the skin-deep, out-of-date McCain image. As this fairy tale has it, the hero who survived the Hanoi Hilton has stood up as rebelliously in Washington as he did to his Vietnamese captors. He strenuously opposed the execution of the Iraq war; he slammed the president’s response to Katrina; he fought the “agents of intolerance” of the religious right; he crusaded against the G.O.P. House leader Tom DeLay, the criminal lobbyist Jack Abramoff and their coterie of influence-peddlers.

With the exception of McCain’s imprisonment in Vietnam, every aspect of this profile in courage is inaccurate or defunct.

Rich goes on to describe in detail how the Old McCain (no pun intended) is gone or never really existed, yet few people know this because the press hasn't reported much about the real McCain. My take on the media is that they are motivated by profit, and ratings drive profits. A blow out by Obama isn't very good for ratings so the Media builds narratives and creates controversy, real or imagined, in order to make the race appear closer than it really is. Now that the race is perceived to be even we may hear more about the Real McCain. I doubt it.

Since the media won't do much to show us the real McCain I thought I would do my part. As many of you know, after McCain returned from Viet Nam he immediately dumped his first wife who had been in a devastating car accident. Carol, McCain's first wife, used to be a beautiful model. As a result of the accident Carol McCain was left physically disabled and she was no longer the tall slender model married. John McCain eventually divorced Carol but while he was still married McCain began an affair with a 25 year old hottie who was the heiress to a beer distributor fortune. You can read more about McCain's callous treatment of his first wife here.

While John McCain's disloyalty to his first wife is fairly well known among the political junky class, what isn't well known is that McCain's mother sued Carol McCain shortly after the divorce was final. LINK

From the linked article:

Curiously, although the records clearly list the plaintiffs, McCain's campaign says his mother's 1980 lawsuit was filed "unintentionally" and that the Arizona senator didn't know about or authorize the 1990 lawsuit with his ex-wife, Carol. And McCain's 96-year-old mother, Roberta, says she never sued Carol.

Others involved dispute those assertions.

In the 1980 lawsuit, filed shortly after John and Carol McCain divorced, Roberta sued Carol to reclaim some personal property, including paintings, a needlepoint screen and a pair of earrings. A settlement was reached in 1981.

As usual, McCain doesn't know anything about this. I can see why he would want to forget it. I wouldn't want to admit that I couldn't prevent my mother from suing the ex-wife I betrayed in order to marry a cheerleader.

The bottom line is....McCain is a self centered ass. If you want to vote for him because he is a Republican then I can understand that. What I can't understand is why people would want to vote for McCain because they think he is a stand up guy who should be admired. The real McCain is no such thing.

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But she's a queen, and such are queens

that your laughter is sucked in their brains. -D. Bowie

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That's pretty Rich. (#110488)
by tomsyl

The significance w/r/t media bias of the 48% of people who've heard too much about Obama blew right past you, apparently. And characterizing McCain as a man who "betrayed his ex-wife . . . in order to marry a cheerleader" is something I encourage you to stick with through the election, as it's a guaranteed winner.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

The media.... (#110493)
by Blue Neponset

...is reporting "too much" about Obama in order to make the race closer.

McCain did betray his ex-wife. Cheating on someone for years and years and years is a betrayal. I guess that IOKIYAR. Pretend McCain is a Democrat and it might be clearer to you.

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But she's a queen, and such are queens
that your laughter is sucked in their brains. -D. Bowie

Argue with the Washington Post, not me. (#110557)
by tomsyl

Link.

Your take on the media's motives for its bias is a novel one.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

wtf? (#110564)
by Blue Neponset

McCain isn't mentioned once in that article.

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But she's a queen, and such are queens
that your laughter is sucked in their brains. -D. Bowie

So McCain came back from 'Nam in '80? (#110439)
by Bird Dog

Now I think I have an inkling of why Mac wote his more recent post. Since you've already made your motivations clear...

"So hopefully there is a 527 out there right now willing to ruin John McCain's and/or his family's reputation if it needs to be done."

...why do you think your post would be well received by anyone other than the most partisan liberals?

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"I want America to know that I'm, like, totally ready to lead." -- Paris Hilton

Nope (#110481)
by Blue Neponset

He came back in 1973 and as soon as he was able he started to cheat on his wife. It only ended with Cindy. You can read all about it here.

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But she's a queen, and such are queens
that your laughter is sucked in their brains. -D. Bowie

Then you should update your post (#110541)
by Bird Dog

You wrote: "As many of you know, after McCain returned from Viet Nam he immediately dumped his first wife who had been in a devastating car accident."

No matter your motivations, you should at least get your facts right. McCain returned in '73, so you're simply wrong that he "immediately dumped his first wife". He "dumped" his wife in '80. Is it really necessary to look up the definition of immediately?

What we do know--from his own autobiography--was that he cheated on his first wife after he returned from 'Nam, although you and I don't know exactly when the cheating began. From your own link: "Their marriage began disintegrating while McCain was stationed in Jacksonville. McCain has admitted to having extramarital affairs."

You've provided zero basis for "immediately".

You also conveniently omitted that McCain was separated from his first wife when he met Cindy. A small detail but telling, especially for a diarist who publicly proclaimed that it's OK to smear McCain and his family if that's what it takes to get Obama elected. Nice morals. Don't you find it ironic that you're bashing McCain for his personal character when you're so in favor of your liberal friends making dishonest attacks?

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"I want America to know that I'm, like, totally ready to lead." -- Paris Hilton

I stand by my diary (#110546)
by Blue Neponset

Don't you find it ironic that you're bashing McCain for his personal character when you're so in favor of your liberal friends making dishonest attacks?

Don't hate the playa, hate the game. This is how you win elections. Ask my friend Erick Erickson about it, if you don't believe me.

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But she's a queen, and such are queens
that your laughter is sucked in their brains. -D. Bowie

Thanks (#110723)
by Bird Dog

You've just told the readers here that facts don't matter. Nor does basic honesty. What Erickson thinks is his business, but I don't think he would refuse to correct basic facts. But hey, it's your credibility, or lack of it.

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"I want America to know that I'm, like, totally ready to lead." -- Paris Hilton

I withheld comment because I (#110547)
by Brooks and B Ra...

I withheld comment because I wanted to see how you'd respond to Bird Dog's point. All I can say to you is: Geez Louise, man. Be big enough to admit you were wrong about something.

Yeah, the Democrats are pretty stupid about this (#110328)
by stillnotking

McCain's bio has some huge attack opportunities. Whether the attacks would be accurate or fair is irrelevant, of course. The appearance of impropriety is enough in politics.

My guess is there are two reasons it's not happening. First, Obama has seized the reins so completely in this election that no one is going to produce any ads without his OK, and Obama is worried that a smear campaign would belie the "new politics" image he's trying to cultivate. Second, the Democrats as a whole are very leery of attacking a war hero. They tried to tap into this dynamic by nominating Kerry last time, which didn't work so well (the Republicans are less vulnerable to charges of Troop Hatred).

The Democratic Party is so institutionally risk-averse that it's a wonder they ever win elections. I'm pretty sure they have enough of a tailwind right now that they will win the Presidency and pick up seats in Congress; but if they had a Gingrich or a Rove leading the pack, there'd be few Republicans left outside the South.

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The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.

Simple math (#110388)
by Spartacvs

Taxes, the economy and healthcare.

Significantly more people are hurt by the standard Republican policy solutions championed by McCain, than gain by them. Obama needs to hit this theme hard and take advantage of the bounce expected to follow his official nomination at the convention by campaigning hard on his substantial domestic agenda.

To the extent that non partisans care about foreign affairs, Obama has established his foreign policy credentials and shown that he is at least the equal of McCain on the world stage, job done. For the next phase he needs to address any remaining doubts amongst undecideds in respect to his proposed solutions to the domestic issues the electorate really care about. Obama would be foolish to follow McCain into the weeds with too much negative campaigning centered around 'character' issues. While he should be prepared to rebut the more egregious character assaults, he should concentrate on his message on policy proposals aimed at dealing with the perilous state of the domestic economy while pointing out that McCain has nothing but standard GOP platitudes and demagoguery to offer by way of comparison.

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GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.

It's both funny and sad that (#110314)
by Brooks and B Ra...

It's both funny and sad that partisanship obstructs the otherwise active and sound critical thinking and reasoning of some folks. Depending on whose foot the shoe is on, the microscope is either used extensively (and findings included or discarded depending on whether they support or refute one's desired conclusion) or put on the shelf along with one's glasses (whatever people on their side -- candidate, party, fellow partisans, etc. -- are telling them is there is good enough for them).

Case in point:

Obama built his candidacy throughout the primaries and still today -- both his strategic offense (superior judgment; stronger against the Iraq war, and not to blame for it) and his strategic defence (deflecting the charge that he's too inexperienced) -- on his opposition to the Iraq war in 2002, as evidenced by a speech he gave at the time. This, he argues, showed superior judgment than all the more experienced candidates, and after all, if the reason experience is valued is for the judgment it provides, no need for the experience if he acquired the judgment without it, and in fact, better to go with the guy with the superior judgment.

His supporters (the same ones who are skeptical of anything claimed by anyone on the other side, and who put their critical thinking and their investigative powers into overdrive to find a reason to reject the claim) have apparently swallowed that argument hook, line and sinker without ever giving it a second thought.

Well, if a Toyota salesman tells me that the Toyota Camry is better than the Nissan Maxima, is it because he really believes it, or because he's selling the Camry and not the Maxima?

Well, as one columnist put it when discussing Obama's 2002 opposition to going to war in Iraq:

He took that position when the war was enormously popular, the president who initiated it was even more popular and critics of both were slandered as unpatriotic. But at the time, Obama was a mere Illinois state senator, representing the (very) liberal Hyde Park area of Chicago. He either voiced his conscience or his district's leanings or (lucky fella) both. We will never know. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/28/AR2008072802464.html

Perhaps Obama truly believed everything he said, that it was clear to him that war (or its authorization by Congress) was the wrong action at that time. Or perhaps he thought the opposite, but was disingenuously taking that position to please his constituency. Or (and this I consider most likely), he was somewhere close to the fence, but went with pleasing his constituency as essentially the tie-breaker. If it's either the second or third, then as for Obama's whole "superior judgment" claim -- well, NO SOUP FOR YOU!

But my point here isn't mainly to knock Obama's claim -- although I may have posted at some point on that -- but rather to point out how ridiculous it is that many of the same people who are beyond extremely skeptical of claims from the other side (and who devote effort to supposedly debunking such claims) are utterly naive (or at least act that way) when it comes to stuff claimed by their own side (and devote effort to promoting such claims).

Come on, folks. Use your brains and your energies with some reasonable degree of even-handedness (and I'd suggest a healthy degree of skepticism applied to all such claims). Try to be equal opportunity critical thinkers.

Here's a fun exercise: Some of the folks who just love to debunk all the supposed myths about the other guy and to tear that guy down could write a diary or two debunking (in part or whole) some positive myths about their own guy...if they are able to see them. I won't hold my breath, but it's possible.

History Lesson... (#110305)
by JKC

Those with short memories might need reminding that it was the GOP Congress of the 1990's that impeached a sitting president over a blowjob and a stain on a blue dress. To say that extra-marital affairs are now irrelevant to a candidate's fitness for office could be construed as a wee bit hypocritical.

you must know that's not (#110306)
by Brooks and B Ra...

you must know that's not true, so why say it?

What's untrue? (#110308)
by JKC

er, your comment (#110310)
by Timmy the Wonder Dog

the proper answer is

1. "perjurious, false and misleading testimony"; and
2. obstructed justice to "delay, impede, cover up, and conceal the existence of evidence" is the proper response.

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

Ha. (#110313)
by JKC

I actually have had a bad weekend... you have a gift for understatement.

As for your points...

1. "perjurious, false and misleading testimony"...about oral sex.

2. obstructed justice to "delay, impede, cover up, and conceal the existence of evidence" of oral sex.

Y'all can pretty this up as much as you want, but there's a reason the Starr Report reads like a bad Danielle Steele novel*- the GOP decided to impeach a president over consensual oral sex. Please don't whine about John McCain's marital failures being used against him. The GOP opened this Pandora's box, and the GOP gets to live with the repercussions of that choice.

* Yes, I know that's redundant.

Yeah, which means what you (#110316)
by Brooks and B Ra...

Yeah, which means what you said was untrue.

Apparently, it was a really bad weekend (#110307)
by Timmy the Wonder Dog

nt

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

I agree with Rich's assessment (#110302)
by heet

especially regarding the media's incentives for keeping the race close. Hopefully the debates and some real reporting activity in the next few months will lift the veil.

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Over here on E Street, we're proud to support Obama for President. - Bruce Springsteen

Congratulations, Blue Neponset... (#110293)
by vinteuil

...for coming up with the worst and stupidest justification for opposing McCain that I have yet seen.

And I say that as one who desperately hopes (but without much confidence) that Obama will beat the pants off McCain come November.

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God help the while, a bad world I say.

C'mon, it isn't the stupidest (#110295)
by Blue Neponset

It isn't like I accused McCain of being celebrity or anything like that.

I probably would have dumped Carol for Cindy too. I'm not made of stone. I just don't go around telling people that I have: LINK

a remarkable record of leadership and experience that embodies [an] unwavering lifetime commitment to service.

That doesn't sound like the McCain who dumped his disabled wife for a hottie or the McCain who got into flight school after graduating in the bottom 1% of his naval academy class or the McCain who flip flopped on all his Maverick positions once it was convenient to do so. People should know the real McCain.

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But she's a queen, and such are queens
that your laughter is sucked in their brains. -D. Bowie

Got Tired Of Waiting For Those 527s, I See (#110298)
by M Scott Eiland

Might have been better for you if you--and those with similar plans to dwell on his martial history--had waited. Inoculation and all that, you know.

Obama doesn't have any tame judges waiting to kneecap *this* opponent, I'm afraid.

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No, this was an organic process (#110300)
by Blue Neponset

I saw the Rich article and thought it was worth a diary. I added the lawsuit gobbledygook since it sums up the real McCain that Rich was talking about.

Angry John only cares about Angry John. Your party seems to have forgotten how much you guys hated McCain for his Maverick stances but I haven't. McCain has always been about what is best for McCain. If your party wants to pretend you loved McMaverick when he was pissing you guys off so he could grab the spotlight then you will probably get away with it, just not around here.

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But she's a queen, and such are queens
that your laughter is sucked in their brains. -D. Bowie

Hey, Give me Time! (#110294)
by Harley

It is worth noting that this guy's, uhm, character, or at the least his worldview, is seriously aslant. I love that he simply couldn't answer the question last night regarding what constituted 'rich' -- after all, he's worked very few days in his life, and his wife, well, she's the one who buys and houses and keeps them rolling....

Five million, he said. I'm sure, to him, that's about right.

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To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard

"he's worked very few days in his life"... (#110296)
by vinteuil

Good G-d, Harley - if you think that line is going to work for your side, then...well...I just don't know what to say.

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God help the while, a bad world I say.

Not a Line, Nor One I Feel Needs Working (#110299)
by Harley

The larger notion is that McCain has a media-fed image that is not an accurate reflection of who the man is. This has nothing to do with his first marriage or his trophy wife or his five hundred dollar shoes. Heck. That would be like calling someone a celebrity.

It is, I think, more important to be accurate about his various poses over the years, whether it be re the war in Iraq or Katrina or even the recent crisis in Georgia. The personal stuff is fun to blog about, but hardly a 'line' that requires following.

Tho' I do believe his age and his temperament are valid issues. The latter more than the former.

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To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard

yes (#110311)
by Timmy the Wonder Dog

"It is more important to be accurate." Exactly!

That is why Obama is such an obvious target for disclosure on a whole of host of topics and relationships, er complete the bio.

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"Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much." Ob

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