Thinking about buying a new computer... PC or MAC?
I have two dells and both have so many bugs etc.. I am really looking at Mac...
I don't use the computer for much more than Internet stuff and basic word processing for papers and school.. Anyone have an Idea on what I should buy? I might play a few games but not a hard core gamer so most of the high dollar stuff is out...
I am looking hard at the IMac.. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac?mco=MTE3MDM
Any idea which one is best for the money... Any ideas or other options much appreciated..
Thanks Da....
Update: It seems so far that I am being told that Macs cost more with fewer down time problems. If I do not go with Mac what should I choose? I would go with a mini mac but both my current monitors have issues... One is way old and bulky the other has scuff marks from a move that are permanent as far I can tell.. What I am getting and thanks for the response is that Mac people love their Macs.. They have less trouble on freezing up and spy ware etc. They need more memory and hard drive space? (Maybe or recommended). I can get a cheaper PC with more bells and whistles. If I need to run stuff on my flat screen from my computer or movies on my PC MAC does not cut it? NO Blue ray etc????
OK not sure if you guys are making this less difficult.. I do like the advise to go into the store and see what size monitor feels right... Also Laptop vs desktop? Is their a docking station that makes a laptop better over all? On our honeymoon we would have liked a laptop..Still with the new phones I wonder if this is less important..
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Don't get anything! :) Just do a complete system re-install on your Dells and everything will be cool.
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)Davinci, what're the specs on those machines?
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| parent )Many titles have no Mac port.
If you want cheap, go PC. I built my own gaming beast, and my wife's 3D animation workstation out of parts from pricewatch.com for ~$2000 each, but you could go a lot cheaper. Use free web browser, free Open Office for office applications, only wind up paying for software like Windows (unless I go Linux), Maya, games.
If you want simple, elegant design, never worry about the nuts & bolts of upgrades, etc., zero virus/trojan worries, great 2D graphics, and a few good game titles, go Mac. It's spendy, but if you want fire-and-forget functionality, Mac's the way to go.
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)For the stated needs you have which appear to be pretty basic....do you want to spend $500-$600 on a PC that will do everything you need and more, or spend twice that to do the same thing?
Apple....they* don't call'em Trophy Computers for nothing.
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*Oh, wait....no, that's just me. %^/
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)As others have said, more elegant and certainly more care free. I've never had a hassle, but I'm not a gamer.
My kid, who is, is constantly having to upgrade and replace parts on his PC. And I am completely lost when he complains about Microsoft upgrades. I do know that the Fed Ex guy was a regular at my front door with little boxes for the boy. I spent more on the initial purchase, but the kid has spent a lot of dosh on his PC. And the fans drive me crazy...my Mac is quite.
When I would ever use his PC to help him in a search or something..it felt clunky and awkward.
So it is what you want, I guess. Note: my use is music, vids, and research. Never had a problem once.
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)if your son is
he might be pulling Mom's leg.
Just a little bit ;-)
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| parent )He had to pay for everything he ordered and the boy was born squeaky tight money wise. I only knew of the purchases and frustrations because he used my phone when I was in the room and I was the one who answered the door for the deliveries. Or he wanted to use MY computer to get to a customer service site.
But he was very heavily into Everquest and whatever else followed. He was always upgrading. Though I do have to say he did make a lot of money selling whatever they sold to others with Everquest. He once got 600.00 bucks for his skill levels or whatever the heck it was.
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| parent )is that what the kids are calling it these days?
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| parent )Sold his Everquest toon, eh? Developing good online retail instincts is a good thing.
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| parent )go the work station route-that way you can upgrade the hardware as you go. You can pick up a good (and big!)used CRT (through Craigslist) for a song these days. The Mac interface IS more elegant-PC's always seem to be more clunky but to say they are "less productive" is a bit of a stretch. On the other hand it's nice not to have to worry about viruses, trojans and the like if you get a Mac.
And Mac's suck for 3D.
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)actually works in reverse. What happens is that thumb drives (which most over here use for data transfer and manual backups because networks are unreliable) transfer Windows viruses silently from PC to Mac to Mac to PC. No Mac users over here use antivirus programs ("because we don't need one") so they can't detect Windows viruses that are getting transferred via the thumb drives.
At least with PCs the machines are constantly checking for viruses.
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| parent )At least most apps have ported over to OSX now. Problems lie in areas under the hood. The number of ported plugins for major applications is comparatively tiny, especially for Lightwave and Maya. If you need a third-party utility like UV-Mapper Pro, you're out of luck. Or need to translate models or scenes reliably. And of course, there's still no 3DSMax.
On the other hand you can run all of these in Parallels--and on a Quad-core you won't see much decrease in render speed, unless you're used to a pro workstation. On the third hand, there's that lousy card problem I mentioned earlier, so OpenGL is going to be sluggish, and you won't be able to customize geometry RAM for individual apps.
IMHO, there's an easy rule you can follow here: PC 3D, Mac 2D
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| parent )if you really are only looking at the basics (browser, email and word processing) any entry level machine will do what you want. The problem is determining if there's anything non-standard you'll want to do in the next five years. The PC (at least desktop machines) does have more flexibility in that area.
A PC running XP, using Firefox as the browser and a decent antivirus package will have very few problems (unless you have a habit of opening email attachments from Zambia or clicking on anything that looks colorful at web sites). A Mac running Safari will be a similar, with even fewer problems. Most problems I deal with are caused by people doing something they shouldn't, but that's going to be true of any machine.
If you are used to a PC, the Mac will require you to learn a slightly different interface. No big deal, but it will take you a couple weeks to get beyond the basics. As to whether the PC or Mac interface is better, that's a personal preference.
Think hard about what kinds of things you may want to do. Something like video editing will make a big impact on what kind of machine you should look for. Try using a display machine at a store, make sure the monitor looks OK for you, as well as the keyboard and mouse.
You can email me if you have any specific questions.
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)Considering that all you need is the basic features, your choice basically boils down to:
PC: Lower price and greater expandability
Mac: Greater reliability and superior tech support
Personally, I'd go with a PC, but then again I'm computer savvy enough to fix any problems that I run into. If you want your computer to just work, pay the extra cost for a Mac and AppleCare.
As for the two Dells you're having problems with, I used to work for Dell Technical Support, so drop me a line if you want any help straightening them out.
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)PC lower price? Sure.
Greater expandibility? What do you mean? Hardware? Software? I can't really imagine what expansion need an average user might have that Mac couldn't meet.
Mac Reliability? Sure.
Tech support? The genius bar is great, but the phone support isn't better than a good PC company.
I think the big advantage is elegance... of both the software and the hardware. I spend my life on a computer, so I don't think you can give short shrift to that. It's a bit of an intangible, and you can't really sell people on it until they've experienced it.
Also, the Mac has iLife suite and some other fun stuff that you might not think you would want to use until you're acquainted with them. Video ichat, for instance.
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| parent )I would say spending $1200 bucks (cheapest option at your Apple link)on something you can get for half of that to do, essentially, very basic things (internet, word processing, non-hardcore games, items you mentioned above) goes against your "..so most of the high dollar stuff is out" sentiments.
Go PC.
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| parent )This may be a dumb question. I'm not in the market for a new computer right now, but there's always been one thing that has kept me from considering a Mac: the potential (in my mind, at least, given my ignorance on the subject) for incompatibility with stuff sent to me from folks with PCs or vice-versa. I've never taken the time to look into it to the degree I might have to to feel sufficiently assured that there wouldn't be problems; It's more convenient just to buy a PC and not have to look into it or take that (potential) risk.
Educate me, fellas. Oh, and no partisan spin, please :p
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)Check out boot camp. There's also a web site dedicated to any resulting issues. Macwindows.com...
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| parent )If there aren't any problems, why is there a website dedicated to problems?
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--~At times like these I am reminded of the immortal words of Socrates when he said...."I drank what?"
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| parent )but you're politically liberal?
I didn't realize they still made you.
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| parent )Apple is an authoritarian company. Liberals do it with more freedom.
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| parent )I'm starting to think it'd be easier - and cheaper - just to become a conservative.
Besides, who wants to be associated with this douche bag?
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| parent )my office computer was a Mac (publishing) and my home computer was a Wintel PC (er, gaming). No difficulty exchanging files between the two (Word Docs, Excel xlses, outlook (PC) and Eudora (Mac) email files, PDFs, Photoshop files, Illustrator files, everything), whatsoever.
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| parent )Years ago, yes, today, Macs and the rest of the computer world are pretty transparent with each other. If you can afford it it's worth it. I justify the extra expense by the time I'm likely saving by running a mac rather than a pc. If you can't do that, stay with your PC.
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| parent )Yeah, that's the Mac advantage I have in mind. I've had my share of wasted time and frustration with PCs, and I've always heard that Macs don't have that bugginess (or whatever you'd call it when a PC locks up or has other problems).
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| parent )And be sure to get Apple Care.
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)Before you chuck out the Dells, why not download and install Linux?
I've been using Mint Linux 5 now for about a month without any trouble to speak of. It's a kind of Ubuntu on steroids.
http://www.linuxmint.com/download.html
Once you burn (as image) the CD, you can boot and you will be given the option to install. It'll give you more or less the same feeling of embarking on a new adventure in computing and you won't have to spend any $US.
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)... a lot of the time. I need the processing power for my graphics work, but you're not going to need it for the stuff you're doing, so I think it's just a matter of monitor size for you. Go to an apple store and feel it out... does the extra monitor size seem worth it to you? Then I'd say just go for the cheaper of the options within that size.
I have to differ with Z below... I don't think RAM is going to make much difference to you websurfing or word processing. I would suggest you get a separate hard drive that's about 30 or 40% larger than the most you ever expect to store, apps included. Nobody tells you this, but Leopard's time machine needs that much overhead since it stores previous versions of your docs (a real life saver at times, believe me.)
Welcome to the Mac world. It will take you about a week to get used to it, but after that you'll never want to go back. Everything is more elegant and kinder to you.
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)I always run out of RAM at home. I always want more. I've bought over a dozen systems over the years, not counting work systems, and it's alwas the same. Right now the new system I'm contemplating must have over 2 gigs, likely 4 gigs. But I'm a multi-tasker and keep a lot of apps running.
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| parent )I'm the same way. But the machine I bought 8 years ago (which was state of the art then,) a G3 with 350MHz and I think around 800 MB of RAM ran the basic apps -- WP, web browser, email -- just as good as the machine I have now.
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| parent )...can handle today's overloaded, hyperactive websites. I find that even a G4 w/a couple of gigs of ram is not up to the task. I haven't even tried the G3 for over a year, but partially retired it because it couldn''t keep up on the web.
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| parent )Why don't you start a nice, calm discussion about abortion instead?
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)...and it's not really Mac v PC. He's zeroed in on 4 macs, all worthy, capable machines. As long as you're not deep into gaming, Macs seem like they cost more, but they are easier to become productive on. I keep wanting to dive back into Windows, or Linux, but the Mac OS seems to pretty much meet my needs every time, with very low down time compared to PC owners stats. One advantage of staying with PC, is that if you're good at putting stuff together yourself you can have the best graphics display and plenty of horsepower to run hi-def video for probably 40% less than it costs to push the same amount of pixels to the screen on a pretty, new Mac box. But Macs seem to be more reliable overall, and the design of these new iMacs is as good as it gets.
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| parent )I looked at those current prices for the iMac line, and there's compelling reasons for buying any of the 4 models, depending on how much money you can spend. I'm looking squarely at that page myself, but have been with Macs for years.
Spend the extra money for the AppleCare, even though it's expensive. Consider extra ram, 2 gigs may be skimpy. Always buy Apple branded ram, (I've got stories). Score an academic version of Office or Word, and the Adobe Creative Suite line of programs. Also Apple's various creative programs for editing, altering and storing images. There are deep academic discounts for these. Buying programs w/an academic discount often saves you more than the basic hardware costs you.
Consider also looking at used and re-furbished, by Apple and otherwise. If you look carefully on their website, they have a re-furbished section. Get an idea what these things sell for on E-Bay, which will give you a better selection than the Apple Store. The main thing you get at the Apple Store is confidence that it's gonna work fine, and you will only be able to buy latest makes and models that they are choosing to sell.
Easy answer? Spend a little over 3K. Buy the best one on the list, and spend the rest on needed accessories like external drive(s) and more ram. On a budget? Look for a fine monitor by somebody like Samsung or Toshiba with full 1080P resolution, (none of these iMacs have that), and spend the rest on a Mac Mini, and hope you can upgrade. Go to a Mac Mini enthusiasts site. It may be the best bang for your Mac buck. I can see a souped up Mac Mini as a living room media server. I think the kids are doing that.
You'll get by far the best internet and audio/video experience with the 24" with the best graphics processor. The jump up from 20" to 24" is stunning. It'll make you want to beef up your audio, for the minimum of another couple of hundred $, maybe a bit less. I've worked with both and I'm torn as to which size I prefer. At the moment I'm leaning towards 20", as any 1080i or p signal would have to be scaled down anyway to fit on those rather modestly spec'd screens.
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)I use it at home, after getting sick of shelling out $150-$200 every few years to upgrade MS Office.
Open Office includes a great word processor, spreadsheet (Excel), database (Access), presentation (PowerPoint), and a draw program. It has full document conversion so you can open and save to any conventional software format, including Microsoft. The GUI looks just like MS Office, has all the same functionality.
It runs on PC, Mac, Linux & Unix.
And it's absolutely free. Sun Micro rocks.
http://www.openoffice.org/
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| parent )The only reason I'm stuck with MS Office.
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| parent )It has a Navigator View, which I consider to be far, far more powerful.
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| parent )like this?
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Working_with_list_(numbering)_styles
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| parent )but if you have to interchange anything other than basic documents and spreadsheets with people using MS Office 2007 you may run into some difficulties. There are converters, but MS throws some sand in the gears every few years.
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| parent )or forms with macros, etc. And to be honest, big conversion projects like that always get messed up in translation, even from MS Office PC to MS Office Mac or vice versa.
But for daily use I send stuff from Mac Word (work) to PC Open Office (home) all the time with no hitches (except when I tried using Rich Text Format). And I use some fancy stuff like headers, auto page numbers, highlighting with comments, track changes, etc.
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| parent )Really? I've installed Kingston RAM into three different Mac laptops and never had a problem. I work in an industry where we all use Macs, and no one I know has ever had a problem with non-Apple RAM.
I installed 4 Gigs into my new MacBook Pro for $150. Apple charges around $700 for 4 Gigs, if I recall correctly.
If you install non-Apple RAM, just be sure to save it, and reinstall it if you ever need it serviced. (installing non-Apple ram voids the contract)
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| parent )I've been down this road more than most. primarily with the Mac platform, but basically RAM is RAM.
As to the Kingston company, I remain a big fan and have considered them to be one of the finest companies created, ever. Yet I will find it difficult to ever buy RAM from any other vendor than the actual manufacturer of the computer. Here's why.
RAM can never be completely tested. There simply is no testing routine that can be performed in any reasonable amount of time that will determine if your RAM does not have some sort of defects that often manifest themselves as random errors from time to time. You rely on the manufacturer, and on the integrity of the supply chain. I've gleaned this information from some of the captains of this portion of the computer industry, the guys who write the utilities, and the guys who hire the guys who write these utilities.
I've been bitten by this problem a couple of times. The only way to diagnose is to swap out, and sometimes wait hours or days for the results. This process is painful and so costly that I will pay 50% more for RAM from the manufacturer, in this case Apple, than to buy after market RAM ever again.
This is the only product that worries me when buying after market, due the lack of testability and the fact that if I can pretty much prove a RAM problem to the Apple techs, they will let me swap out without having to buy their RAM, again, just to test to see if the original RAM was defective or not.
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| parent )from a site called MacGurus.com. If you talk to them they're great at making sure you get a compatible and reliable product.
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| parent )check what you're buying, and don't get the absolute bargain basement stuff. Kingston is reputable as far as I'm concerned.
I saved the 5-600 bucks and bought the faster processor with the better video card. I installed windows with bootcamp (easy to do, btw) and play video games on it from time to time. Granted, I play older games, and you can never upgrade the card. So you won't be playing flashy new games in a couple years.
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| parent )There are a few weaknesses with a Mac Quad-core tho, you will find bugs in Win app usage with Parallels and/or BootCamp, particularly running games or peripherals. The biggest problem however, remains the video card, which simply isn't pro-standard for gaming, 3D, or even HDTV (no Blu-Ray). It's an odd flaw to be unaddressed, considering Apple was a pioneer in early AV units.
The up side--you'll get the fantastic ease of use and reliability of OSX. The down side--you'll pay a lot for a machine that has some unexpected limits. Right now HP, for example, makes an excellent pro 3D/video editing workstation with an ATI FireGL II card that costs the same as that $3k Mac. And if you use your machine as an HDTV station, as I use one of mine, you can't beat one of the old desktop Raid-array Vaios, which you can buy for a song. Speaking of which, add an M-Audio digital sound card, and you have your own radio station too.
As for 1080p monitors, I found a couple of 22" Acers on sale recently for $180 each at Best Buys. Look as good as Samsungs or Viewsonics and way better than Toshibas.
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| parent )Tricky subject. Any $180 Acer should be scrutinized carefully. There are a lot of corners monitor manufacturers cut, and some of these engineering compromises may look good with internet graphics, but still exhibit stuff like motion artifacting problems, and incomplete resolution of the gray scale. Dynamic resolution can also be a problem. Whenever you're using your computer system for TV style playback, you should know how to tune up your monitor, where your monitor is deficient, and if it's worth it to live with those deficiencies. My professional opinion is that today the best way watch a feature film at home thru a computer would still be on a cathode ray tube, though I've seen extremely expensive Sony and Panasonic LCDs that are as good at rendering the gray scale. But they cost way too much for the consumer. On the other hand 1080p24 video played back on a new iMac looks awfully good most of the time.
But I also like the LCD look, and it's getting better and better each year. The Apple displays always cost a bit more, but are usually worth the extra money.
For watching video from the web, live or downloaded for later playback, I would need to spend at least 6-700$ on the monitor alone to make me happy. Anybody spending a lot of time with motion graphics just needs to spend this amount for an adequate viewing experience. Even then there is a lot of image loss.
Although I'd love to see a 180$ Acer look better than an Apple Cinema display, it just doesn't. Look at the grays and the motion. I'd give this a couple of more years for the prices to come down that low, if ever. Is your monitor DVI or VGA? VGA imo, is pretty much dead.
I am envious of those of you that build your own systems. I'd be good at it, but have just dabbled from time to time. I'd like a dual-link DVI monitor, and the horsepower to power that pipeline. I just can't justify the expense.
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| parent )Specs are excellent, performance has been perfect so far. No dead pixels or back-illumination. This particular machine--a VAIO--runs one of them, plus drives my 50" Panasonic plasma through the other card output with no problems. Agree about the Apple monitors, but compared to what they cost, the ACER looks every bit as good to me ;)
You're totally right about the G4/G3s. My old G4 can no longer even surf the web, because Safari 3 won't run on it without an OS upgrade that will kill half the shareware on the machine. They are legacy machines now, essentially. But as a longtime Mac user, I have to mention one other giant drawback to Macs--the constant OS upgrades that, over and over, will render a lot of your installed software obsolete. This has been the case ever since System 7 and is no better now. And that's one area where WinXP has it beat.
I don't believe in Mac vs PC--just in Mac + PC. One platform/machine is always going to do things the other can't.
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| parent )dual boot Mandriva Linux and 64 bit Windows XP.
The best argument for going to Mac is avoiding Vista. Let's face it, there's no way that bag o' shyte will ever get stable. It's gotten so big, it's like some uranium atom, fire one extra neutron at it and the whole thing goes kablooie.
Forget all the Windows Compatibility issues: lots of the old code which ran fine on XP has issues on Vista. Not to mention all the driver issues: half the time, Windows isn't even compatible with itself. Microsoft does great app development for Mac boxes, and the code's more stable.
Everyone else in my family runs Mac gear. In a pinch, if I don't know how to do something via the Mac interface, I just open a Korn Shell.
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| parent )I have a Ferrari too ;)
Beautiful machine.
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| parent )What a surprising coincidence that you two are running the **same** machine! Especially when it's under the same roof...eh?! The net is tightening. HankP start checking IP addresses!
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| parent )Guess which characters in 'Cocoon' were based on the two of us...
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| parent )I blame it all on the Internet
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| parent )about your photo, Hank ;)
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| parent )don't feed me straight lines, I can't help myself.
--I blame it all on the Internet
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| parent )requires a straight line? ;)
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| parent )