Iran Fires New SSM


Anyone see that Iran successfully lauched a new two stage combined solid fuel surface-to-surface missile today with an apparent range of 1200 miles?

reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4AB1WG20081112?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

Is the Sejil something that we knew about previously? How should we respond formally and informally? What will Israel do?
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Ecch, let them have their shiny new two stage dildos. (#136250)
by BlaiseP

Detecting a rocket launch from space is child's play. If they tried to launch something in earnest, they'd be signing their own death warrants. The Cold War proves even the most godawful dictators want to die in their beds and not roasted in a thermonuclear blast.

Let 'em go on building them. Build a million! Stack them up like pencils in a coffee cup, put 'em on trailers and roll them down the avenue on National Victory Day past the reviewing stands, it won't make them any more threatening. Nations who've had ICBMs know they might act as a deterrent, but they don't serve any offensive purpose. China was smart enough to build a few dozen nukes, then stop. They never participated in the arms race, beyond having just enough deterrent capability to stave off any threat they might otherwise face.

If I wanted to respond to that threat, I'd have the commander of a nuclear submarine take a photograph of a targeting console on board his boat, with the GPS coordinates of downtown Tehran on the display. I'd take another picture of a smiling submariner with his finger poised right over the Big Red Button. Send them to Iran by diplomatic courier.

Yep (#136261)
by stillnotking

My bold and fearless prediction -- well, maybe not so bold or fearless, seeing as it's based on the sixty years that have passed since our enemies got nukes -- is that no state actor will ever launch a nuclear first strike against the United States or its allies.

If we want to lie awake at night worrying Who's Got the Bomb, our thoughts should turn to terrorists and loose nukes, not governments.

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They had other (#136246)
by eeyn524

missiles with equal or greater range, the main difference is the claim of solid fuel only. As far as the US/Israeli response, it doesn't seem like "we'll be threatened with solid fuel missiles!" is a whole lot more compelling than being threatened with liquid or hybrid missiles.

It might mean they are getting closer to having satellite launch capability, since the solid fuel part is apparently what they were having trouble with on their SLV.

On the other hand, it might mean nothing. A lot of their technology claims seem to be intentional misdirection or bluster.

Actually, from an Israeli POV.... (#136251)
by Bernard Guerrero

....it's a bit worse. Liquid fuel birds require a more extensive "warm-up" period prior to launch. The benefits of solid fuel include lower maintenance requirements, but also faster times from order to launch.

Of course, they live right next door anyway. :^(

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Looks like it's nothing new anyway (#136323)
by eeyn524

Their latest story is that it's "combined" liquid and solid fuel, which wouldn't be anything beyond what they've claimed in the past.

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