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Memo To Future Triathletes (#103432)
by M Scott Eiland

This is *not* a recommended approach to training, regardless of the undeniable motivational elements inherent in it. After all--as anyone who knows anything about triathlons knows--the swim is supposed to precede the bicycle run, not follow it. :-P

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Congratulations To The People Of The United Kingdom (#103396)
by M Scott Eiland
Warm wet Mars update (#103384)
by Bill White

Link

Clay-rich deltas

In separate research, Bethany Ehlmann of Brown used CRISM to identify clay minerals around geological features – such as deltas – where lower-resolution spectrometers such as OMEGA had failed to find them.

"Visually [these features] look for all the world like the Mississippi delta, where you'd expect to see lots of mud and clay," Milliken says. "We see clay minerals exactly in the spots you'd expect to see them."

Ehlmann says any life carried along in the ancient rivers may have been deposited in the deltas, where it could be trapped in the clays. "If any micro-organisms existed on ancient Mars, the watershed would have been a great place to live," Ehlmann said in a statement.

The next rover to be sent to the Red Planet is the Mars Science Laboratory, due to launch in 2009. Scientists are still debating where to send it, but Milliken says the landing sites under consideration include deltas rich in clays.

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Fence post turtles -- They don't get up there by themselves, some moron had to put 'em there.

Colombia violates the Geneva conventions (#103378)
by catchy

just following up on a FARC diary from earlier. The Colombian intelligence agents wore the Red Cross emblem.

Obviously a dangerous precedent to set. Calls into question whether the op. was worth it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/16/colombia

p.s. I'm too busy to moderate right now, but was thinking about suspending vint. + Blaise briefly for insults.

Seems like cracking down would be polite before new mods come on so they don't inherit a zoo. Guess I'll jhsut toss the idea out for jordan + tomsyl. There's too many uinread comments right now for me to take such selective action and Im giving a paper on Friday so I don't think i'll get a chance to do anything in near future.

Not good (#103379)
by Macallan

However, if this is true:

"He said a single member of the rescue team had become nervous and attached a cloth International Red Cross symbol to his vest."

It puts a slightly different spin on it than if it had been a planned & authorized act.

EDIT - btw, when did FARC sign the conventions? ;-)

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“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”

I was assuming that quote was spin (#103407)
by catchy

One guy got scared and attached some cloth to his vest?

If it is spin (#103429)
by Macallan

It won't last more than 72 hours or so.

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“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”

Eruption of Common Sense In California (#103283)
by M Scott Eiland

No parole for you, Susan Atkins.

A few more moments like this, and I might start believing states when they say that life without parole *means* life without parole. If you can't muster the gumption to keep Manson Family members behind bars, more "mundane" murderers are going to follow the path out, no matter what their nominal sentence is.

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Q. Why did McCain opt for public financing? (#103256)
by Spartacvs

and make such a fuss over Obama's decision not to?

A. Because he knows full well how to exploit the loopholes in campaign finance legislation he helped bring about, to maintain the GOP's inbuilt advantage.

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Are you vouching for your source? (#103394)
by tomsyl

I"ve never heard of it but it looks like a pretty anti-McCain, pro-Dem site, and links to itself in the blog post you cited. Do you have a reasonably neutral source to substantiate the claim made in the link? Call me a skeptic until then.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Update (#103420)
by Spartacvs
Wow (#103246)
by M Scott Eiland

Two things:

1. This may be the best MLB All-Star Game I've ever watched, and;

2. It may well end in a tie--causing Bud Selig to spontaneously combust.

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Requiem For The House That Ruth Built (#103248)
by M Scott Eiland

Yankee Stadium will not close its doors for good until at least late September, but--given the uncertain fate of the Yankees themselves this season thanks to the surprising Tampa Bay Rays--the epic All-Star game played tonight and won by the American League 4-3 in the bottom of the 15th inning may well be the final, crowning moment of glory for a sports venue that has seen dozens of world championships in multiple sports in its eighty-six years of existence.

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Don't get my hopes up - nt (#103247)
by Macallan

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“I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”

Hey, jafraldo? (#103240)
by aireachail

I just wanna say thanks for the best comment I read today.

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Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham

Gotta share a great line by (#103180)
by Brooks and B Ra...

Gotta share a great line by my girlfriend the other day.

Before I left my girlfriend's apartment, I scooped out the poop from her cat's litter box and took it out to the garbage. When I was back home and speaking to my girlfriend on the phone, I pointed out that I had cleaned out the cat's litter box. She remarked that that was very sweet of me to do. I said "Yeah, that oughtta get a guy a blowjob, right?" and she replied "Hold on, I'll ask her."

That is a good one. (#103182)
by Pranky

nt

Reminds me of an oldie: (#103185)
by tomsyl

Two cowboys walking down the street observe a mangy dog lying in the dirt licking its own privates. Cowboy No. 1: "Gee, sure wish I could do that." Cowboy No. 2: "If I were you, Clem, I'd try ta pet him first."

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Dogs (#103244)
by aireachail

This guy is driving around the back woods of Tennessee and he sees a sign in front of a broken down shanty-style house:

'Talking Dog for Sale'

He rings the bell and the owner appears and tells him the dog is in the backyard. The guy goes into the back yard and sees a nice looking Labrador retriever sitting there.

'You talk?' he asks.

'Yep,' the Lab replies.

After the guy recovers from the shock of hearing a dog talk, he says 'So, what's your story?'

The Lab looks up and says, 'Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA and they had me sworn into the toughest branch of the armed services...the United States Marines. You know one of their nicknames is 'Devil Dogs'.

In no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders; because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping. I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years running, but the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn't getting any younger. So, I decided to settle down.

I retired from the Corps (8 dog years is 56 Corps years) and signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover security, wandering near suspicious characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded a batch of medals. I got married, had a mess of puppies, and now I'm just retired.'

The guy is amazed. He goes back in and asks the owner what he wants for the dog.

'Ten dollars,' the guy says.

'Ten dollars? This dog is amazing! Why on earth are you selling him so cheap?'

'Because he's such a liar .. He never did any of that shit. He was in the Navy all that time!'

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Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham

This talking dog joke works (#103385)
by Brooks and B Ra...

This talking dog joke works better orally than in writing, but...

A guy bets folks at a party that his dog can talk. Lots of money is wagered.

The guy then asks his dog "What goes over a house?"

Dog replies "Roof".

"And what's life like?"

"Rough"

"And who was the greatest baseball player of all time?"

"Ruph"

Everyone concludes the dog obviously cannot really talk and they take the guy's money.

The guy is pissed. He leaves the party, driving off with his dog in the car. The dog turns to the guy and says "Do you think I should have said DiMaggio?"

Indeed an oldie but a (#103192)
by Brooks and B Ra...

Indeed an oldie but a goodie. By the way, what's the difference between a pit bull and a chihuahua?

When a pit bull starts rubbing himself on your leg, you let him finish.

Violence and delinquency are in the genes (#103153)
by Sulla

it’s in a study so it must be true.

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"That Sam-I-am! That Sam-I-am! I do not like that Sam-I-am!"- Dr. Seuss

Of course they are. (#103160)
by Punditus Maximus

How could they not be? If they weren't, then there would not be any.

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It's impossible to debate if people simply hold beliefs that have no grounding in reality.

Rules of thumb in private and public life (#103149)
by John

"Just say NO" by Bryan Caplan.

That is, until you know saying YES is better.

A man after my own heart.

Says Caplan:

1. If you don't have clear and convincing evidence that doing something is better than doing nothing, do nothing.

2. If you know that doing nothing is bad, but don't have clear and convincing evidence that one action is better than another, do the simplest, standard thing.

...If votes just learned to say No until a politician could clearly show that government action would improve the world, voters would shout down most of the policies I detest before they ever got to my second heuristic.

Down The Memory Hole (#103135)
by M Scott Eiland
The Purge (#103203)
by Model 62

1) Obviously, the copy was updated, but the gist is essentially the same. The new version adds more atta-boys and atta-girls for service people, but the basics of the original remain: the men and women of the military have succeeded in improving the security situation, at some cost, but the political goals are just as far out of reach.

2) The Purge of the site does raise important questions about candidate website editorial policy, especially with respect to the revision of official statements* of policy goals and archive procedures. I am sure I don't know the answer, or even if this is a problem that can be addressed (pols are pols; revising statements and policy positions is what they do). Opposition vigilance is probably the best oversight we can hope for.

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*Make that "quasi-official statements". Candidate websites are marketing vehicles.

The surge in cash (#103156)
by Spartacvs

used to pay off one time Sunni insurgents has been successful in consolidating the reduction in violence against US troops prompted by the 'awakening'. Flooding Baghdad with US troops tasked with erecting concrete barriers to consolidate the physical separation of ethnic neighborhoods brought about by earlier Shiite on Sunni violence, has had a similar welcoming effect in reducing violence. But neither have had much effect on securing the political reconciliation necessary to solve the underlying problems of Iraq.

So 'the surge' has been somewhat successful in achieving step 1, ending the violence. But not in step 2 - motivating the Iraqis toward meaningful political reconciliation that obviates the need for the kind of heavy internal security, whether US or Iraqi, that prevails under the Bush-McCain plan.

Obama has merely updated his website to reflect that reality and used the opportunity to heap praise on US troops taking part in 'the surge', a no-brainer for any political candidate really. I don't see where Obama would get any mileage out of hating on the troops in Iraq, do you?

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Being against the surge didn't mean Obama hated the troops (#103186)
by tomsyl

and I heard no one here say that. Obama "merely updated his website" to reflect the fact that McCain was right and Obama was flat wrong on the surge. Like you said, that's something many pols likely would do, particularly when, as here, it suggests they are clueless on military matters in Iraq.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

No one here (#103250)
by Punditus Maximus

Here is not the real world; nowhere close.

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It's impossible to debate if people simply hold beliefs that have no grounding in reality.

Spartvcus is right, below.... (#103201)
by Harley

The surge is a qualified success. But the most important aspect of it remains unfulfilled, at least at the moment.

Does that make McCain 'flat wrong' about the surge? Does this mean he's clueless about military matters in Iraq?

Generalizations like that are fun. But rarely accurate.

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To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard

How about "almost as flat as Kansas"? (#103324)
by tomsyl

I believe in compromise with the other side wherever possible.

I said it suggests cluelessnes, not that it proves it. I haven't heard anything from Obama indicating any ffamiliarity with the actual situation in Iraq that goies beyond what I can read in (and between the lines of) the MSM. And any way you cut it, he's made a big mistake by not going there for three years, and by not consulting military people in any significant fashion before expressing opinions like he did yesterday. Maybe not in your eyes, but in the eyes of a lot of potential voters, I'm betting. And you know this will be debate ammo for McCain.

That said, I appreciate your acknowledgement about the qualilfied success of the surge, which I agree with. As always, the military did it's part, and now it's time for the diplomats to spin their usual ambiguities and lies. Will you agree that that part, the political reconciliation that Sparticvs refers to below, can't happen withourt the cooperation of the Iraqis, who we don't (and aren't supposed to) control?

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Has Obama been flat wrong (#103200)
by Spartacvs

on the fact that improved security hasn't brought about the kind of political reconciliation 'the surge' was intended to create? The surge has not been a game changer, responsible withdrawal will be.

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GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.

Please define "responsible withdrawal" (#103395)
by tomsyl

Obama hasn't AFAICT. It sounds to me like a withdrawal that leaves some form of stable government that doesn't collapse into anarchy within months of our departure. If that's what you mean, we're in complete agreement.

AFA the surge creating political reconciliation among the Sunni and Shia, I'm not sure anyone ever believed that could be done with military force alone. So while the military activity apparently has given internal reconciliation a better chance by closing borders and limiting Iranian insurgency support within the country, we can't close the gaps between the Iraqis themselves, obviously.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

"responsible withdrawal" (#103427)
by Spartacvs

as opposed to 'Victory' and 'no surrender', good enough for me.

barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

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GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.

Diplomacy game still forming. (#103130)
by hobbesist

Two spots still open in game 'forums_crossed'; to join, send an email to dpjudge@floc.net with the following in the body text:

JOIN forums_crossed yourpassword knife
SIGNOFF

... where yourpassword is a password of your choosing. Or, if you'd rather choose which power you will play:

JOIN powername@forums_crossed yourpassword knife
SIGNOFF

... where powername is one of the remaining available map powers; in this case: Austria, France or Germany.

The rules are pretty minimal, and there are a couple of first-timers already in the mix - more would be most welcome!

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Brevis esse laboro, obscurus fio.

McCain fires up the dolchstosslegende. (#103104)
by Punditus Maximus

I suppose that McCain, given his personal history, is your guy if you want to refight the Vietnam war over and over again.

Our national security as a political football? Confusion between "recognizing a reality" and "wishing for that reality"? Routine accusations which boil down to questioning the loyalty of the opposition? Ladies and gentlemen, John McCain is Just Another Republican. I have no idea what y'all's reservations ever were.

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It's impossible to debate if people simply hold beliefs that have no grounding in reality.

Can't argue with this (#103118)
by stillnotking

Senator McCain said he would rather lose an election than lose a war and see the nation lose a war.

My feeling is that John McCain fully expects, and in some sense even wants, to lose the election. He sees this run as his swan song, after which he can retire into comfortable Elder Statesmanhood. It'll just be a bonus for him if things go to pot in Iraq -- as they certainly will -- because he can say "I told you so!"

If he won, he'd have to figure out what the hell to do with the place. Sit down with the Sunnis and Shiites and tell them to "stop the bull***t?" He knows as well as everyone else how that would work out. No, much better to fade into a graceful political twilight, cracking his eyelids now and again to nod along with Sean Hannity while imagining the glorious America that might have been.

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The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.

inserting a picture... (#103094)
by Zelig

I would like to post one small picture and a link to a handful of others that I took a couple of days ago in Oaxaca, Mexico.

I can post a link, but no picture is retrieved. I think I know the code, but where should I put the picture that I wish to appear in the text of the post? I've tried links to flikr and to Kodak Gallery, where I have the picture posted, and it doesn't work. What service can I join that will host this one picture?

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Me: We! -- Ali

Pictures, Pictures from Zelig, That I Want.....! (See Infra) (#103102)
by Traveller

A flckr account is just perfect, to post here was the only reason I started a Flickr account.

Upload the images, then save them.

Then start your text....when you want an image, go to that image in flickr, but not just the thumbnail, open that puppy up...then right click on the images....view properties at the bottom of the menu...you will see a URL address like this as Location:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2396/2436992014_096a96d36d.jpg?v=0

In front of this address type [img] cut and past the address here, and close the address like this [/img]

You can then type more text and keep repeating the process for different images.

And you should have it down pat. (I only throw up this image as an example because it is recent)

Best Wishes, Traveller

Yeah, so I'm an idiot (#103073)
by dionysus

And left my backpack at Old Town. Anyone grab it by any chance? I'll pay ransom, it's got my favorite sweatshirt in it.

dionysus, I might be getting (#103416)
by Brooks and B Ra...

dionysus, I might be getting my screen names and people mixed up, but I can't connect your name to someone I met there.

I think I remember everyone else correctly:
Wagster was wearing a straw hat.
Jay C was wearing the Brandeis t-shirt (or was that you, dionysus?).
Jordan was wearing 3/4 sleeves (or pulled up).
TXG has a beard.
HankP was wearing a Hawaiian party animal shirt and brought two buddies, including Bob Newhart's younger brother.

Where am I screwing up?

I brought it home. Didn't check for a sweatshirt, but (#103077)
by Jordan

I imagine it's yours, and anyway I'll gladly take a ransom for it. :)

Shot you an email, let's arrange a drop.

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

We grabbed it (#103076)
by TXG1112

I think Jordan has it, send him an email.

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Hey, Search is sub-awesome. (#103043)
by Punditus Maximus

Could some kind site admin soul track down the separate bets I had with tomsyl and Mickey Love? I think it was ML. Anyways, something about McCain, unemployment, etc.

I'll bookmark the threads next time.

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It's impossible to debate if people simply hold beliefs that have no grounding in reality.

Perhaps you're thinking of me? (#103062)
by Soothsayer

http://theforvm.org/diary/pranky/open-question-a-mccain-presidency-what-...

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"In large states public education will always be mediocre, for the same reason that in large kitchens the cooking is usually bad."~Nietzsche

That were it, thx. (#103103)
by Punditus Maximus

I think that, at this point, if Obama wins the Presidency, I've already won the unemployment unemployment part.

IndyMac's death and the Fed's decision to nationalize the risk associated with Sallie Mae mean that I don't think we'll have to wait until 2010 for this one to come out.

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It's impossible to debate if people simply hold beliefs that have no grounding in reality.

I thought our bet involved tequila. (#103397)
by tomsyl

Don't remember the details, just the biofuel involved.

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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

OK, This Might Be Collusion (#103042)
by M Scott Eiland

If Barry Bonds' agent is telling the truth, the MLB Players' Union should file a collusion grievance immediately. A convicted serial killer who put up the numbers that Bonds put up last season and who offered to play for pro-rated MLB minimum (and offer to donate the money to charity, yet) would be signed by *some* MLB team in about thirty seconds if he got work release somehow and if the Commissioner's office didn't actively block it. The point of willing suspension of disbelief has been passed: Bud Selig should either suspend Bonds officially, or stop blocking Bonds through unofficial disapproval. Enough is enough.

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Nominations? I Thought We Already Did This...But, If Not, Then.. (#102998)
by Traveller

1. BlaiseP

2. Søren Kierkegaard

3. Micky Love

(Ha! That'll teach 'em...)

Traveller

I think he meant for you to do that (#103099)
by Username

in the linked thread..

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