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He ended up writing in Bobby Jindal, who I think is going to wind up being the Mike Huckabee of the next few Presidential races, but without the personality.
I'd be interested in a headcount here, how many conservatives or nominal Republicans feel the same way?
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)What gives?
Invalidating your ballot is good citizenship and constitues voting as if it matters?
--GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.
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| parent )to take the moral high ground position and look like the pious common sense type if your candidate is getting creamed in your state.
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| parent )but your point is fair, due to our electoral college setup his vote really doesn't matter in CA.
I do think it says something that there appear to be many conservatives who just can't vote for McCain/Palin, which is why I asked for a headcount. I'm guessing that there will be some surprises among forvm regulars.
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| parent )An excerpt from a profanity-laced, ill-tempered rant, but here are the good bits:
http://trollblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/peasant-wisdom-about-the-collapse-of-western-civilization/
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)Detained in Kenya:
The American author of a best-selling book attacking Barack Obama is being detained in Kenya because he does not have a work permit, a senior immigration official said Tuesday
Yay!
wait. Maybe he's being deprived of his civil liberties and we shouldn't wish that on anyone.
OTOH, perhaps the Kenyan government is operating w/in letter of the law and if anyone has shown he intends to operate w/in the letter vs. standards of common decency it's Corsi.
Yay!
http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/world/2008/10/07/D93LHI300_af_kenya_obama_author_detained/index.html
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)he'll be writing about how Obama used his Kenyan connections to get Corsi gang-raped in a Kenyan prison.
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| parent )It's the New New Deal. The Newer Deal?
What should they be called: Roosevelt Republicans? Hank Franklin Paulsonvelts? Delano Bushlinroos?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27123491
It's looking like the American gov. will own banks, insurance cos + major car manufacturers by the time of the election. Wow.
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)The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )He's been so on top of all this. And didn't he work for Goldman Sachs?
Roubini's Recs:
At this point severe damage is done and one cannot rule out a systemic collapse and a global depression. It will take a significant change in leadership of economic policy and very radical, coordinated policy actions among all advanced and emerging market economies to avoid this economic and financial disaster
Including:
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| parent )Fence post turtles -- They don't get up there by themselves, some moron had to put 'em there.
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)I genuinely did not believe McCain would go one hundred percent negative at any point in this campaign. The fact that he is doing it so ineptly and with such poor timing is at least vindication of my general thesis that he sucks eggs as a campaigner, though.
--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )FOX news on the newsweek cover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YInuTc3C3jM
sheesh.
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)coming from the network that did this:
--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )They put those images in the 'beautification engine' in reverse. Here's when it's going forward:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/fashion/09skin.html?_r=3&8dpc=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
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| parent )The market is at five year lows it may go down a bit more but from my view we are looking at a bottom coming soon. I have been looking at morning star for the first time is it worth it to have a subscription to a service like this..
Now a couple of other questions. We have a RothIRA account that is sitting in cash at the moment. Since we are going to be long term investors do would we be better in funds, stable long-term stocks, etc. I understand a reluctance to get to into specifics but what kind of recommendations on advisement , etc. The investment sector is a bit unnerving considering their current track record. I also don't want to be loaded down with fees. I am not against paying for sound management but don't want to be taken advantage of. What is the book to read on this stuff for the long term? It seems that much of the selling we have seen is related to Lehman liquidation and hedge and mutual funds settling for the end of the year. I am looking at putting our money in next week if I get a since that we are close to the bottom in some undervalued stocks with growth potential.
Any help in general would be appreciated...
Thank you
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)but unless you think you can call the bottom in this market, cash is a safe place to be until some of these very serious problems get sorted out.
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| parent )in the current market: they're usually tax-free. Keep a weather eye out for green tech companies, but don't invest just yet. The next administration will be pushing through huge green tech investments, that's what I'm looking at just now.
The dollar is rising: cash or near-cash positions look best. But don't take me seriously, I'm the biggest vulture investor on the block. I've been short CBOT corn for a month and it's been really good for me.
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| parent )http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/10/chill-out.html
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| parent )...world markets next week.
We argue while Rome burns?
It's getting spooky, Gentlemen, spooky.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aP5mpMUORBWM
Traveller
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)Berlusconi's fat mouth.
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| parent )A bit surprised to see this today. Is this new? I was curious what he was saying on Prop. 8 (typically wrong, but oh well) and stumbled across it...
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)endorses Obama:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=12136
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| parent )into the 'no true Scotsman' argument here, after so much silence?
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| parent )I blame it all on the Internet
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| parent )GW Bush, Jonah Goldberg, etc.
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| parent )Reagan Jr. has always been a liberal, Buckley Jr. has always been a conservative. You can spin it any way you want, but there are quite a few conservatives who have been quite dismayed and even disgusted by McCain's campaign.
I'm guessing that several of the silent conservatives here would admit to the same if they were willing to commit to an opinion rather than keeping their options open.
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| parent )South Park is back, and those guys Lucas and Spielberg probably wish it wasn't.
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)... that you were writing about this. So close!
--Brevis esse laboro, obscurus fio.
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| parent )The Dodgers will still be in good shape if they can win tonight. Down 2-0 will be another matter, though.
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| parent )... the Phillies will dash my hopes, but I'm pretty certain that they will. So even if they win again this afternoon: keep the faith, man.
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| parent )Link
We have also borrowed heavily to finance consumption. And the time to pay up is coming.
Uh oh . . .
I cannot see an easy solution to these convergences.
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)One side makin' with the jokes. While the other seethes.
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)I think.
--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )John McCain is pretty funny for a politician. I've seen him go on Letterman or Stewart and really have a ball. But in the debates he was so wound-up and nervous, every one of his jokes fell so flat you just had to feel sorry for him.
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| parent )According to finance minister Flaherty strict regulation partially explains their health:
"We required them... to maintain the appropriate capital requirements and raise capital as necessary, which was done months ago."
Flaherty declined to say which banks were involved in shoring up capital to meet the government's standards. However, CIBC (TSX:CM), which has had to write off billions of dollars linked to the sub-prime and battered debt market in the U.S., raised $2.75 billion earlier this year by selling stock at a sharp discount.
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Canadian borrowers must put down at least five per cent of the cost of a home and the maximum payback period on federally insured mortgages has been reduced to 35 years from 40 years, lowering the risk of defaults.
Sounds nice and everything, but of course we could never have effective governmental oversight like that here.
In this country government is the problem.
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)Canada and the US. Down here, it's "Live Free or die", up there it's "Peace, order and good governance"...and the mindsets that follow these slogans.
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| parent )Down here we read Ayn Rand; up north they're reading Margaret Atwood.
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| parent )I could never read her turgid prose.
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| parent )Why so angry?
An ugly, ugly crowd. Is this really what the republicans have become? A month to go. How long before the pitchforks, torches and nooses come out?
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)People don't "become" this.
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| parent ).
--Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH
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| parent )The problem was always there; the South was always horrifically brutal. What changed was that the North became slowly aware of how simultaneously awful and economically unviable slavery had become.
If you look at the debate over slavery in the late 1700s, it was pretty much assumed that it would die out over time. It was the South's refusal to move organically to a new system that caused the problem.
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| parent )Slavery was still a crappy system in economic terms compared to industrial capitalism after that, but it wasn't clearly doomed in the relatively short run, as it was before 1792. If the Constitution had been written only a few years later, the clause allowing the 1808 ban on the slave trade would probably have been a deal breaker for the South; as it was, they went along with the bargain they struck in spite of the continued semi-viability of the slave system, but they probably regretted that bargain.
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| parent )neither party has a lock on either bigotry or violence? So we can actually have an adult conversation about what is wrong with each "side"?
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| parent )Whoever works to reform it is on the side of decency. Whoever works to exploit it isn't.
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| parent )I agree 100% with your reformers/exploiters sentiment.
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| parent )Or something like that...
LOL
I also love how people who are clearly not at work are telling other people clearly not at work to "Get a job"...
Other than that...sad.
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| parent )Link
September must have been a very good fund raising month.
I guess I really need a new TV now . . .
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| parent )My local electronics store sent me an e-mail (well, me and a few zillion other people) offering what seems like a very nice deal on a 55 inch Olevia 255T FHD LCD TV.
I would kinda like a new TV in time for Election Night coverage.
Any thoughts on this particular TV?
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)but I personally have never seen one. I spent three years picking the right TV at the right price, and ultimately decided on a 65" rear-projection DLP Mitsubishi with 1080p and multiple HDMI inputs, both essential IMO. It beat all of the LCDs except the much more expensive Sony Bravia and Samsung in terms of picture detail and off-axis viewing. Take a small magnifying glass with you and look at the screen image close-up to see whether the individual scan lines are thin and crisp, not blurred.
I ended up paying $1700 for the Mitsubishi locally, delivered. I would not buy through the mail, particularly an LCD or plasma TV, which is essentially worthless if the screen cracks. You need to be able to threaten a local service rep if you have problems down the road, and mailing a 55" screen back to the vendor is not practical.
WRT the TV itself, the color and contrast will likely be way off as received, so get a good alignment DVD when you get the TV. Also, you will tire of the set's built-in audio quickly if it has same, so plan on laying out another $3-400 or so for an external surround sound system. More on that later if you want it.
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| parent )looking into DLP TVs - they've really advanced the technology and the 1080P sets I've seen are very, very good and a LOT less than LCD or plasma models. LINK
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| parent )Furnature mart. If you have those stores or comparable ones and have the TV guys give you the run down. Then go look at it and make a choice....
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| parent )and http://www.pricewatch.com/tv/
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| parent )This is gonna get fun.
Tom Vilsack and other surrogates were out saying the same thing today. So are the cable pundits. If the Ayers connection is worth driving hooples into a racist/xenophobic frenzy at the rallies, why wasn't it worth bringing up at the town hall?
In other words, they're calling McCain a coward. And given his temperament, given how unstable he's been the last few weeks, one can only imagine how this will impact the roiling, seething mass of resentments he has become.
The only question now, is: when does he blow? I figured he'd play Good Cop in the last debate. But given how desperate he is, and given this? I think the odds just went up that he goes postal on national television. Which would be cool.
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)Hey, it just never came up:
I didn't have the stones to bring up Ayers, but by golly I gave him what-for about that planetarium. (Where's the planetarium ad, Senator?)
Edit: by the way, Gibson's question has an obvious answer, which is that the McCain campaign doesn't want to give Obama a chance to directly refute the Ayers charges in a public forum. It's not a question of courage but of efficacy. McCain would cheerfully wrestle a grizzly if he thought it would get him the Presidency of the United States.
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| parent )Biden gets in on the act:
McCain's gonna blow. It's only a matter of time.
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| parent )Ask courageous questions. Do not be satisfied with superficial answers. Be open to wonder and at the same time subject all claims to knowledge, without exception, to intense skeptical scrutiny. Be aware of human fallibility. Cherish your species and your
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| parent )To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard
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| parent )Steady boys, steady now!
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| parent )McCain's coat tails continue to shrink
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)chances for a stay of execution and a welcome back into the fold?
--GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.
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| parent )Brad Delong looks at the numbers on McCain's latest, and perhaps last, Hail Mary.
To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard
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)Tampa Bay Tribune:
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| parent )cat.
--"That Sam-I-am! That Sam-I-am! I do not like that Sam-I-am!"- Dr. Seuss
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)People Eating Tasty Animals
--For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise - B. Franklin
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| parent )via Michael Kinsley:
The entire piece is here.
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--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )Old Gregg for those who aren't up on this Mighty Booshism. Here's a sample.
"More of a 70-30 split; whatever the percentage he's one fishy b*stard."
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| parent )Everyone watch all the youtube videos. They are deliciously crazy.
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| parent )That's only for Democrats! I recall quite clearly that four years back, John Kerry's reported use of the "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?" line came in for a great of scorn/snark/mockery from the Tacitus commentariat - anxious to cite it as absolute proof of how "snooty", "arrogant", etc. Long John was (and of course, how this utterly and completely disqualified from any consideration of becoming President).
I wonder if this incident will generate a similar reaction? Or does IOKIYAR trump all?
BTW, Kerry at least mouthed off in a tony Boston(?) restaurant: somehow Angry John losing it in a Puerto Rican casino doesn't have quite the same cachet....
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| parent )If I ever made it into this place, would I ever want to leave?
I'm fairly sure that I'd have to be escorted out.
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)My exact same thoughts.
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| parent )His female Sancho Panza?
George, George George shouldn't it be: Sancha Panza?
Anyway, once I learned a little bit abut Sarah Palin, I figured that the East Coast establishment Republicans would seek to throw their own ticket under the bus, soon enough. After all, how can they possibly control a genuine populist such as Palin?
And thus George F. Will writes this sentence:
Indeed! Barack Obama mocks John McCain for talking too much like Jesse Jackson and George F. Will nods in agreement?
Too funny!
But the simple truth is that East Coast establishment Republicans have decided that Obama simply is more sane that John McCain. Or at least a safer bet in that regard.
George F. Will's closing paragraph:
David Brooks
George F. Will
Charles Krauthammer
Kathleen Parker
Of course these folks are merely the bellwethers for the undisclosed opinions of the traditional GOP establishment and yet the signals being sent by these folks plainly suggest the East Coast old guard GOP wishes to wash its hands of McCain & Palin.
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)Be sure to read the comment under this image:
http://www.pbase.com/cslr_challenge/image/104293275
http://www.pbase.com/cslr_challenge/image/104294258
And the Monk, re-done:
http://www.pbase.com/cslr_challenge/image/104293167
Best Wishes, Traveller
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)Whats the story about the monk?
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| parent )...as with the best things in life, a person simply doing what they are supposed to do.
A small irrigation pump will burn out unless properly submerged, Monk rides up on his bicycle and checks the pump periodically.
As he should.
(Very strong Indian influence EVERYWHERE...thanks for getting me attuned to look for this!)
It ain't called Indo (Indian) China for nothin`, there is a reason for this name, and the reason is to be seen everywhere and in most everything.
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| parent )The great thing about Thailand and Cambodia photography is if you get your shots at a good time of day, everything looks freaking amazing. I got completely lost in taking photos of every nook and cranny at the Wats.
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| parent )We learn that DHS is now keepin' us Safer than Ever!
Well, that just gives me a Warm Fuzzy Feeling. How 'bout you? Yes, it's new and improved and all powered up. Our ever-so trustworthy good buddies at DHS are ready and willing to assist anyone who might need to know Stuff About Us.
I am put in mind of that bit of the Sermon on the Mount: Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
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). . .do little ACORNs make when they're thrown under the tires of the Obama campaign bus? We'll know soon.
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)And on the day that the NY Times breaks the story about tens of thousands of voters being accidentally dropped from the rolls due to a bureaucratic error.
Gosh. A hundred bad forms in Missouri? Alert the Wingtards!
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| parent )And btw: a LINK HERE to the NYT piece on the -possibly illegal - voter purges in various states.
The foofaraw over the Las Vegas ACORN raid seems to have been animated less by the usual partisan animus (in this case): the Nevada officials behind it are apparently Democrats. Still smells funny though.
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| parent )I'll pay attention, though of course the patently illegal Republican voter suppression efforts make anything ACORN could have done look like some guy sneaking in an extra ballot.
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| parent )Republicans are running around with their hair on fire -- and in fairness, I understand why -- trying to nail Obama thru various associations. Ayers, ACORN, etc.
While Obama is nailing McCain on his own actions, eg the weirdo mortgage bailout.
One of those methods is far more effective than the other.
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| parent )Now, I never heard of ACORN before this election and probably won't hear much of them after, but apparently they had been reporting every single fraudulent registration that they identified to the proper authorities, and the authorities never even got back to them. Going back months.
Until this week. When they used those fraudulent registrations, submitted voluntarily, to get a search warrant and raid the acorn office. Like, what? Couldn't be a coincidence, right?
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| parent )a desperate primal scream that folks need to vote for John McCain because Democrats are evil, nasty bad people.
George F. Will (of all people) has this pegged:
. . . ACORN, Ayers, Islamic mole . . .
"Barack Obama is a BAD BAD BAD person and so are all Democrats!"
That is the sum and substance of the ACORN argument.
M. Scott, every time YOU post the word "ACORN" between now and 4 November 2008 I shall hear and recognize that primal scream of rage and frustration and you shall have my genuine condolences and empathy even as I become more convinced than ever that America truly needs to elect Barack Obama as our next President.
Cheers!
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| parent )...it isn't exclusively Republican administrations and offices finding, somehow, that the registrations of poor folks should be rejected.
I mean, how could we have predicted that Republicans would seek to suppress the votes of the poor?
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| parent )or something like that.
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| parent )Or Michelle Obama yelling "WHITEY!"
--Steven Palmer Peterson
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