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I figure electrical engineers will be sucked into the space program -- and that's the sort of thing which leaves one feeling more than somewhat patriotic. Willing to take a pay cut to continue to help out one's home, that sort of thing.
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)India's space program manages to land a probe on the moon--with the traditional rough landing for a first effort. As with the US and Soviet programs, softer landings will come with practice. :-) In the meantime, congratulations are in order for a well-executed first step.
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)"whitey on the moon". Talk about distraction from real issues.
I have some sympathy for the argument in that the spend on space research is trivial compared to the social spend need, and the brain drain issue, too. But the discrepancy is so enormous in our case - compared to the US, Europe, Japan, China, that it seems almost obscene to mention those nations in the same breath.
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| parent )The brain drain is real, and one does get a very nice cadre of experienced engineers out of any space program. India will need satellites for its telecommunications; it can pay for other folks to put them up and maintain them, or can do at least some of the work from home.
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| parent )really what we need - its civil and electrical engineers that are more of a necessity. In any case, we graduate far too many engineers for our needs and end up exporting our surplus - which is good for other countries e.g. ME and the West, but poor return on taxpayers investment.
Also, the educational budget has a huge percentage focused on tertiary education - universities, tech schools etc.
I agree about the satellite communications technology issue, but why a moon landing? All other nations have abandoned moon-landing missions, anyway. This is just one-upmanship on our neighbours.
Edit: Govt expenditure on healthcare is 3.4% of total government spend - compare another BRIC country such as Brazil at 7.2%. A supposedly "capitalist" country like the US spends 19.1%!
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| parent )It's not such a bad thing to export the best and brightest: they come home again soon enough, bringing their wealth in tow. Few Indians make a full conversion to the American way of life, though many do well enough. I can't speak with any authority to the volume of hawala traffic or legitimate transfers of money, but I'd think a gracious plenty of the expatriate income is sent back to support those left behind.
I am glad enough to see the Indians arrive in the USA. Maybe it sounds condescending, but it's not, really. Indians make superb software engineers, once they've overcome their initial reticence about speaking their minds. I've had confidence building sessions with several such people, especially women, presenting a deficient solution to a new engineer and asking her to explain why it's wrong. Soon enough, she's brave enough to speak up in meetings. They're still reticent about swimming out of their own lanes, but I encourage them to chat among themselves: they arrive at solutions in their own route to consensus. Until the Indians arrived, software suffered from a surfeit of bloated egos, technology zealots and bad manners all round. Software is the team that builds it.
Why shouldn't India put something on the moon? It's the first step to launching and building scientific platforms. The great X-ray satellite Chandra was named for Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, the Sanskrit chandra meaning moon or luminous. Look, India ought to join the other world powers as a pre-eminent backer of science in space, where there are no flags or uniforms, only the victory of truth through research. I weary of these folks who would tell us of how we ought to help those poor souls here on earth: yes, they all need help and always will. But even a poor farmer can look up and see the moon, the stars, the planets moving. If one boy is inspired to become another Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, it will have been worth every rupee.
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| parent )The richer you are, the more (proportionally) you're going to spend on it. It's the opposite of food.
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| parent )One thing sort of interesting about this is thinking about the difference in technology now compared to '69 -- how much better the solar panels and video must be.
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| parent )which connects us back to a time when we really did know how to build cars.
You probably have to be a bit of a gearhead like me to fully appreciate that story, but it's as a good a car fantasy as it gets. To really savor it, click on the link to eBay and look at what took place during that auction.
--Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham
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)if someone will pay $250K for a beaten up Poncho SD? What engine came in that thing, anyway? A 421?
There's a Youtube video floating around somewhere of a "modified" '68 SS Dart doing an 8.90 while smoking a Hemi-Cuda.
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| parent )But this one didn't even have the mill in it! The fact that there were only six of these made is what ran up the bids at the end.
I just wonder what it was like for the guy selling it (he was clueless to what he had...he started the bid at $500.00). In those last 10 minutes or so, it went up more than $130K!
There's a "dream car" dealer just a few blocks from where I live. I pop in there now and again on weekends to fantasize about the inventory. One of my favorites sold not long ago, and it's very much in the same category as that Dart you cite:
A sleepah!
--Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham
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| parent )When I worked in Century City in the '80's there was a car dealer there selling an almost new Maserati Ghibli convertible in excellent condition for $13,500 because it had been repainted pearlescent white, which was not a factory color. I don't know what it would be worth now - maybe $100K - but it remains one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen. My then significant other/now wife didn't see it that way, at lest not 13.5K worth.
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| parent )I think I've got something in my eye. Gimme a few minutes.
--Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham
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| parent )It's a good thing he didn't go for the "Buy it now" option!
--I had discovered a great secret. That everyone loves themselves more than they love anybody else. And if I wanted them to love me, I better be like THEM!... Ken Nordine
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| parent )http://www.quoted4truth.com/articles/I-do-not-have-any-money-so-am-sending-you-this-drawing-I-did-of-a-spider-instead
--Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH
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)maybe the guy was right!
--Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham
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| parent )R. Crumb traded four or five of his sketchbooks for a villa in France.
--I blame it all on the Internet
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| parent )http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Obama_to_YouTube_weekly_address_11142008.html
Is it appropriate for the president-elect to sponsor the YouTube brand? Can't his team just license their change.gov media in a copyleft way that allows others to republish?
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)I ran into a Newsweek issue from last year at a doctor's office this week (why do they always have old magazines?) making the case that the 60s defined the last 40 years of our politics. Here are the 60s themed articles online for the boomers around here:
Editor's Desk: http://www.newsweek.com/id/69668
1968: The Year That Changed Everything: http://www.newsweek.com/id/69637
The Worst Week: http://www.newsweek.com/id/69542
Ellis Cose - Why I Write: http://www.newsweek.com/id/69542
It's Ms. America to You: http://www.newsweek.com/id/69586
What the Beatles Gave Science: http://www.newsweek.com/id/69587
Tuned In, Turned On: http://www.newsweek.com/id/69536
Excerpt from "boom": http://www.newsweek.com/id/69585
contents: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/pr/archive/2007/11/11/media-lead-sheet-november-19-2007-issue.aspx
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)over the John Roberts appointment.
Among other things, Obama seems to instinctively understand the logic of our posting rules, the the benefits of being receptive to facts & arguments from the opposing side rather than snidely dismissive, the importance of disagreeing without villifying, etc.
Most of the dkos comments are effusive with praise, but more than a few call Obama a "Vichy Democrat."
Tone, Truth, and the Democratic Party
So wait, if you take people's good faith and good sense for granted before trying to persuade them to try your solutions, you stand a better chance of convincing them? Chasing traitors out of the party is a poor way to address challenges the country is facing? Hm.
If you ask me then I will tell you yes, it is hugely gratifying to have this viewpoint win out (for once) over the petty trench warfare of the past several election cycles. Let's hope it works when it comes to running the government.
I think it encapsulates why he won, why he ran such a phenomenal campaign, and why he'll be very effective in office.
P.S. Obama's followup diary here. Money quote:
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH
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)As a chemistry professor once told me, "Nothing is ever completely useless, it can always be used as a bad example."
--I blame it all on the Internet
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)"Little Green Mootballs"?!
--I had discovered a great secret. That everyone loves themselves more than they love anybody else. And if I wanted them to love me, I better be like THEM!... Ken Nordine
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| parent )Hey, tomsyl, can you let me know if this is as bad as it sounds? Because when I did serve on a jury, they were absurdly careful about this.
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)On my recent visit to the US, I fulfilled a long cherished adolescent wish and actually purchased a MAD magazine.
And what's this? A DC comics line? Advertising?
Ah - memory of late 60s/early 70s Americana! I wonder if anyone here feels similarly.
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)I suspect the only reason anyone buys it now is for nostalgia's sake.
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| parent )Typical Jets. Very nearly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Example number elevendy three why Mangini shouldn't be allowed to use the prevent defense. None the less, they sit atop the AFC east.
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)In a bar in midtown yelling "how do you like that, new york!" to 60 semi-stunned jets fans when the pats tied it up for overtime.
Would have been a lot more glorious had the pats actually finished the comeback. At least I didn't hurt myself, I guess.
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| parent )thigh-highs and g-string, ripping off your skimpy t-shirt and asking the confused men at the bar if they wanted to see 'some more'?!
--I had discovered a great secret. That everyone loves themselves more than they love anybody else. And if I wanted them to love me, I better be like THEM!... Ken Nordine
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| parent )That is an image I just didn't need, but I bet it would have surprised them more than a stunning Jets defeat.
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| parent )I actually remarked "good thing I kept my pants on, otherwise we'd have to find a new bar"
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| parent )works in an almost infinite number of social situations.
--Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. - W. Somerset Maugham
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| parent )... that 'almost' is a decisive qualification.
--Brevis esse laboro, obscurus fio.
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| parent )missed the game because I didn't feel like going out last night.
--"That Sam-I-am! That Sam-I-am! I do not like that Sam-I-am!"- Dr. Seuss
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| parent )This is the first Thursday night game I've actually sat down to watch, and I get the NFL network via satellite. They were pushing watching over the internet during the broadcast, but I have no idea what the bandwidth requirements or picture quality is like if one does that.
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| parent )makes select NHL games available over broadband, for free. And the NHL makes ALL (almost) games available over broadband, for a fee (via Centre Ice). You watch gotta on your computer monitor, but it's no worse than watching any other professionally produced video on your monitor.
One assumes the NFL Internetcasts are at least as good.
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| parent )Damn good stats from the supposedly washed up BF, as usual. Maybe the Jets just throttled things back to make it exciting? Or was the OT simple courtesy to the viewing audience on the part of the officials who ruled that catch by Randy Moss in bounds?
I enjoyed seeing Belichick roasted by the NE press afterwards, too.
But what the hee was the Jets D thinking letting Cassel pick up 60 yards on the ground without so much as a forearm shiver when he had the temerity to run against them? Guys like Joe Klecko, Mark Gastineau and Marty Lyons would be peeved.
The Titans are 9-0? I didn't even know they were an actual real-world team - thought it was just that movie.
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| parent )Can't this good `ol boy do anything right?
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Mr Sarkozy suggested the American president did not want to stake his credibility on a push for peace.
"When on 8 August someone had to leave for Moscow or Tbilisi, who defended human rights?" he asked rhetorically.
"Was it the president of the United States, who said 'This is unacceptable'? Or was it France which kept up the dialogue" between the leaders of Russia and Georgia, he asked, in a speech covered by the French AFP news agency.
"I remember the American president's call the day before our departure for Moscow: 'Don't go there, they [the Russians] want to go to Tbilisi, they're 40km away. Don't go, [just] condemn it'.
"I did go, along with [French Foreign Minister] Bernard Kouchner, and, as if by coincidence, while we were there the ceasefire was declared," Mr Sarkozy said.
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)The End of the Experts
About time, too.
I wrote on Tom Friedman's forum for several years. Made two significant friends there, who've been friends for almost a decade. When I first started writing there, I was under the illusion Tom Friedman actually read what we wrote. He didn't, of course. Such as he were far too illustrious to condescend to the likes of us, mere readers. When the War on Iraq began, I said there was hell to pay and Friedman should know better.
Friedman studied Arabic and was stationed in Beirut. I remember writing at the time, long before George Bush even was elected, that the siege of Iraq was only setting the stage for something more awful. Sieges only end in one of three ways: either the besieger leaves, the defender sallies forth to drive them away or the walls are assaulted.
When Bush began to beat the drums for war, I wrote that Iraq was merely Lebanon writ large, a multi-ethnic and multi-confessional state. Friedman should know better, I said. Yes, Saddam was a bastard, but he was only a threat to his own people. The war on terror was not a war on any state but a war on the enemy of every state.
Friedman says:
I know what you feel, Tom. I sure do. I used to wash my hands a lot over my own misguided support for another war. Then I stopped. I began to work with refugees, and that act of atonement saved my sanity. You will not find redemption in a better battery, Tom. You will only find redemption when you work to undo the madness you rah-rah-ed with such glib enthusiasm, before this war began.
EDIT: If you haven't checked out the URL, this is, of course, a parody. Enjoy the rest of the site
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)Friedman is now trying to advise the govt. on conditions to impose on a Big Three bailout. He's pimping so-called "cellulose-based ethanol" as if it were a panacea for all that is wrong with Detroit. The man does not seem to get that ethanol in any form is simply an energy transport medium with guaranteed losses, not an energy source like gasoline. Too bad he didn't apply his brilliance in economics to the failing economics of his own newspaper.
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| parent )I may have been a little closer than I imagined when alluding to your need to exorcise some demons. ;-)
That site is funny. Back in 2000, before my conservative era, I had set up a site just like it, The New Imperial Times, as a parody of both the New York Times and our latest wave of Imperialism. It never received much more than a couple months of effort and a few thousand dollars before I dropped it for more productive pursuits.
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| parent )They can be harnessed to the plow. No point fighting them.
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| parent )Thanks! I particularly liked Editorial: A Baboon Study Remembered.
--To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard
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| parent )Canadian Scientists find Shorter Work Week as Effective as Viagra.
I'm savin' that one...
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| parent )War Brides (and Husbands) Find Their Place in a New Iraq
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| parent )http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/begich-goes-into-lead-by-three-votes.html
Might Don Young survive the onslaught of fresh uncounted votes? He has a much larger margin over his opponent than did Stevens, but still it would be nice if AK were to completely clean up its act this go around, even belatedly.
--GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.
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)The anecdote about Palin not knowing Africa is a continent? Total scam.
No word about the towel episode, though.
--Brevis esse laboro, obscurus fio.
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)The scam here is that Mirvish created a character and then, as that fake character, took credit for the Africa leak. That's what David Schuster was referring to. NOT the story itself.
That originated with Carl Cameron over at Fox News. Here's the vid. He appears to be talking, and I think quite clearly, about conversations he had with McCain advisors. Mirvish's hoax has nothing to do with it.
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| parent )what's-his-face at Fox ever made. The series continues!
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| parent )I mean, whether this one part of the story is true or not, she's clearly not the brightest bulb - but it would appear that the scam was limited to claims about sourcing. As far as I can figure.
Thanks for the correction, you pointy-headed #$@&!
EDIT: It should be said, in Palin's defense, that "[s]he uses language with the jumps, breaks and rippling momentum of a be-bop saxophonist."
Oh, wait - that shouldn't be said; that's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long, long time, actually.
--Brevis esse laboro, obscurus fio.
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| parent )like that? His name escapes me, but he's pulled several in order, he says, to prove something or another. The problem with stuff like that is it gets past its use-by date pretty fast. Even I can't watch the Three Stooges 24/7.
I'll make sure to miss whatever TV show they are pimping.
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| parent )And you call yourself a man?
Wait - do you call yourself a man?
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| parent )Did it a bunch of times. Dick Tuck. Political prankster. But not a professor. ?
--Me: We! -- Ali
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| parent )Works every time, my friends.
--Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH
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| parent )It wouldn't surprise me if it was "leaked" by a Palin backer, with the intent of undermining the entire case against her when it was exposed as a hoax.
--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )My smell test always works.
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| parent )My guinea pig, Biden, just had babies, and it was pretty cool.
--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )has Biden eaten?
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--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )All those former employees of the Bush administration who have refused to testify to investigators citing Presidential executive privilege, what leg will they be standing on come January 20th if the new Congress determines they want to complete those investigations?
--GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.
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)Congress has nothing to gain politically from pursuing investigations against the previous admin. The time that we could have held their feet to the fire on this one has passed, and all we can do is learn from our mistakes.
--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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| parent )is learning exactly what happened, no?
I'm not saying Congress should pursue convictions at this late stage. Hell, give them all immunity along with fresh subpoena's and lets get to figuring out their motivations and methods to hopefully help protect the franchise in future elections.
--GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.
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| parent )I don't really understand the scope of that privilege, or even where it came from. Bush certainly wasn't the first to use it, so I wonder if the issue of post-office testimony has come up before.
Were there specific investigations you think need to be completed and that were derailed by an exec privilege claim?
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| parent )And the GOP attempt to corrupt the election process.
After January 20 2009 Bush will no longer be in office and as far as I understand, the privilege extends to the office and not the person. But aren't you the expert?
--GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.
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| parent )foosball and the machinations of the international helium lobby. I believe I've made that clear here more than once.
Why would I ask you if I already knew the answer? I limit myself to one trick question here per week, and Harley already fell for one of mine on Sunday. (Even now he doesn't know what it was, I bet.) Your comment implied to me you knew something I didn't.
By "Justice Dept" I assume you mean the US atty firings, but I have no idea what you meant by "the GOP attempt to corrupt the election process."
Are you suggesting Congress should spend significant time on those two issues next session? Would that be before or after they do the promised investigation into the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac failures? Which subject do you think is more important going forward?
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| parent )Put US atty firings into the Google and lo and behold you will find plenty of material on "the GOP attempt to corrupt the election process."
I think it's important that an Obama administration do something about cleaning up GOP voter suppression tactics before the next contest at the polls in 2010. The US attorney scandal was part and parcel of those efforts and justifies continued action to defeat them.
--GW Bush, leading contender for worst President ever.
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| parent )I'm sure it's possible to finds lots of allegations aganst Republicans on any subject; there are also a lot of sites promoting the hollow Earth fantasy. I asked how executive privilege claims prevented investigation, and whether counting coup on people who are no longer in office was more important than understanding how we got into our prtesent economic crisis. Also, there's no evidence that the Dem-dominated Congress can walk and chew gum - they can't even investigate the failure of Wall Street firms and the failures of the two FMs at the same time. Or rather, they won't do that because of the role many prominent Dems played in thwarting efforts to regulate the two FMs, so whether they can in fact run two investigations simultaneously is irrelevant.
But ultimately you are right: If the Congressional Dems think there is any political mileage in continuing investigations that have no relevance to the problems facing the country, they could do it tomorrow. Which still begs the executive privilege question I asked you in the first place.
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| parent )Since pretty much all of the problems currently facing the country were manufactured by the Bush Administration and his enablers in Congress, it really is worth finding out how all of this insanity got started.
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| parent )If you can't tie Barry to FM&FM, then what's the point?
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| parent )Move over, Gus Hansen and Phil Hellmuth: 22 year-old Peter Eastgate of Denmark just won the main event of the 2008 World Series of Poker, making him the youngest World Champion of Poker in history. The $9,152,416 first prize isn't exactly chicken feed, either.
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)He's a rookie phenom; while Halls of Fame are full of them, so are the footnotes to history.
Smart kid -- most people radically underestimate the influence of luck on heads-up NLHE. From my skimming of the action, I see little to suggest that Eastgate "completely outplayed" Demidov, as the typically hyperbolic columnist had it.
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| parent )