Piracy.
A career option in Somalia.
The pirate kingpins who commute from the regional capital, Garowe, 100 miles west, in new 4x4 vehicles splash their money around. When a ransom is received the gunmen involved in hijacking the particular ship join in the splurge, much to the pleasure of long-time residents. Jaama Salah, a trader, said that a bunch of qat (a leafy narcotic) can sell for $65, compared with $15 in other towns. Asli Faarah, a tea vendor, said: "When the pirates have money I can easily increase my price to $3 for a cup."
The navies of many nations attempt to patrol the area. Recently, our navy has been flexing its muscle, although it is not clear whether it actually knocked out a genuine pirate ship or not.
DUBAI: The Indian Navy destroyed a “mother vessel” engaged in piracy in the Gulf of Aden a day after pirates forced a hijacked oil supertanker to enter Somalia’s perilous waters.The incident took place 285 nautical miles (528 km) southwest of Oman’s port of Salalah on Tuesday.
According to the Navy, its warship INS Tabar spotted a ship which was similar to one of the vessels that was suspected of coordinating piracy in the Gulf of Aden.
Two speedboats were accompanying the “mother vessel.” The ship threatened to blow up Tabar when it was asked to stop for investigation. Armed with guns and rocket propelled grenades, the pirates were seen roaming on the upper deck of their ship. The Navy said Tabar retaliated when the other ship opened fire. Consequently, the vessel caught fire. Loud explosions could be heard, possibly because ammunition stored in the ship went off.
In its statement, the Navy added: “Almost simultaneously, the two speedboats were observed breaking off to escape. The ship chased the first boat, which was later found abandoned. The other boat made good its escape into darkness."
Meanwhile, last week, another attempt at hijack was foiled.
DUBAI: The Navy prevented the hijack of an Indian merchant ship on the high seas in the Gulf of Aden on Tuesday.An armed helicopter on board the INS Tabar, patrolling the area, flew marine commandos to the ship, which the pirates had attacked. The pirates abandoned their attempt to board m.v. Jag Arnav, following the intervention by the commandos.
The hijack bid took place when the 38,265-tonne bulk carrier, owned by the Great Eastern Shipping Company, was sailing 60 nautical miles east of Aden. The INS Tabar was then 25 nautical miles away from the spot.
The Navy has been conducting anti-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden from October 23. A naval ship, with a contingent of marine commandos and helicopters on board, has been sent to the port of Salalah in southern Oman.
Meanwhile the hijacked supertanker Sirius Star continues to flounder.
The Sirius Star, which is carrying $100m (£66m) worth of oil, was hijacked at the weekend.The 330-metre oil tanker, the largest ship ever captured at sea, is reported to be anchored near the town of Harardheere on Somalia's eastern coast.
Its owner, Vela International, a subsidiary of the state oil company Saudi Aramco, yesterday opened ransom negotiations, according to the Saudi foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal.
"I know the owners of the tanker are negotiating on the issue. We do not like to negotiate with terrorists or hijackers. But the owners of the tanker, they are the final arbiters of what happens there," he said.
Finally an EU-led force is on its way.
Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden next month to tackle the escalating problem of piracy, in a mission expected to last 12 months.The naval fleet, under UK command, would "disrupt and tackle the scourge of piracy", foreign secretary David Miliband said yesterday on a visit to Beirut. Piracy threatened trade and prosperity, he added.
EU military planners this week drew up a mandate, including rules of engagement for the use of force, for the mission at a meeting at Northwood, Britain's joint operations centre in north-west London. Plans for the EU fleet, led by HMS Northumberland and known as Operation Atalanta, are due to be formally agreed early next month, European defence officials said yesterday.
The EU fleet, originally proposed to escort boats carrying food aid to Somalia, should include ships from 10 countries.
Nato military chiefs, meeting in Brussels yesterday, indicated that a coordinated worldwide response was required to deal with piracy amid a plethora of proposals about how to deal with the problem.
Russia yesterday came up with its own proposal - land operations against the bases of Somali pirates.
Ummm, British led-EU forces? What's happened to NATO taking the lead, or even the US?
Meanwhile, the Russians, somewhat predictably, want to blow everyone away.
Russia yesterday came up with its own proposal - land operations against the bases of Somali pirates.Dmitry Rogozin, Russia's ambassador to Nato, said the view of Russian experts was that naval action alone, even involving the large fleet of a powerful nation, would not be enough to defeat the pirates, given Somalia's geo-strategic position.
"So it is up to Nato, the EU and other major stakeholders to conduct not a sea operation, but in fact a land coastal operation to eradicate the bases of pirates on the ground," he said. "Because we all know ... they have their bases on the ground and of course those actions should be coordinated with Russia," Rogozin said, without making clear whether he envisaged Russian involvement in any operation.
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Looks as if the crew of INS Tabar may have been just a bit quick on the trigger - if this CNN report is to be believed. A survivor of the "pirate mothership" Tabar blasted is telling a somewhat different sea story: who knows?
(Via Information Dissemination : which has an somewhat differing take on the Somali piracy issue. Very wrong on an number of points, IMO, but interesting nonetheless)
Oh, and also quite interesting, if you have the patience to plow though it, a lengthy Atlantic Monthly piece by William Langewiesche from 2003 about modern-day piracy. Asian, not African, but the basic story is no doubt the same.
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)As for the indians... I thought all the claims of being threatened and shot at seemed a little less then credible, but with these details, the pirates being caught in the act of boarding another vessel, they're more believeable. I hope the Indian navy isn't deterred from fighting piracy by this.
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| parent )is a bad response, just as it is in other situations.
We don't have a great reputation for excellence in intelligence athering. This (not just on CNN) is sending considerable shocks around here.
I have no problem with a correctly validated process - co-ordinated international campaign, for example.
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| parent )may indeed be a bad idea: but the notion isn't without its adherents - check out this thread on Volokh Conspiracy : the belligerent bloodthirst in the comments is palpable: as well as the surprising (for a law blog) contempt for even the notion of legal process AFA piracy is concerned.
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| parent )Terrorists and pirates in mortal combat.
Wait for a winner, then finish them off. Very economical.
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)The idea of collateral damage didn't even occur, even after Manish brought it up downthread.
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| parent )for all the world like a David Zucker production.
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| parent )A chance to use all that high powered weaponry without any moral issues. Only evil pirates to be exploded. Justice and death become one and the same.
Of course, to really solve the problem you'd probably need to flatten their port towns as well. but spilt milk and all that. Or is it skinning cats? Or broken eggs? Never mind. Just open fire!
Me - I have some more sypathy for these guys. This all started with rampant illegal fishing putting local fishermen out of business. Where were the world's navies then to kill the evil fishermen, to sink their ships and drop commandos onto their decks?
Of course now it has grown out of all control, and measures must be taken, but if we could put them out of (this) business without killing them it would be great. There are worse out there than them. I'll save the bloodlust for pirates like the ones near Indonesia who recently boarded a ship stabbing all aboard (including a 7 month old baby) before making off with the valuables.
Sadly though, the Russians are probably right. Either you lay waste to all unidentified shipping in that (huge) area, or you tackle the problem on land.
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)To sorta follow up on n.j.'s point above, a couple of pieces from the Guardian about the Somali problem:
First, one by Peter Lehr making the point about the illegal-fishing issue, and suggesting that local (rather than outside) naval forces handle the enforcement duties.
Second, a a rejoinder from Robert Farley pointing out that the problem with this approach is that there are no "local" navies to handle maritime security (according to Farley, Malaysia alone fields more naval strength than all the East African states). Naval assistance on the East Africa coast from seemingly remote nations like Singapore, Indonesia or Malaysia (or not-so-remote, like India) may seem odd, but those countries, today, actually have the best record in fighting maritime crime - the Straits of Malacca (pace nyoos junkey's anecdote above) reportedly have become a great deal safer for ship traffic thanks to concerted anti-piracy efforts by local governments and their navies.
Unfortunately, the situation off the Horn of Africa doesn't seem to lend itself to the same type of solution.
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| parent )....I didn't have any "moral issues" about using all that high powered weaponry before these guys showed up.
And sure, they've got some sob-story to justify things somewhere in the past, but so does everybody else. Highjacking a massive oil-tanker and then blowing the proceeds on chewable drugs doesn't sound like subsistence work to me, so let's call it what it is. Circumstances provided some people with a way to make a bunch of money very quickly, and they took it. End of story. (And shortly the end of them, with any luck. I likes my imports!)
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| parent )What happens to all those ships floating off the Somali coast? Do they get returned to the original owner or does whoever recaptures them get to hold the worlds largest seized property auction?
I suppose if you really wanted to generate some enthusiasm for operations like this you could start giving out prize money to the navy crews. As I recall it was something like 2/8ths to the commanding admiral, 1/8th to the captain, 1/8th to the senior officers, 1/8th to the junior officers, 1/8th to the midshipmen, and 2/8ths to the rest of the crew. Probably get a lot more recruits for the navy too.
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)Thomas Jefferson, our second president, was forced to attack the pirates of Tripoli, hence the line in the Marine Corps hymn: "to the shores of Tripoli"
If I were in charge of this antipiracy action, I would never allow a ransomed ship to float. I would sink every ship in the harbor of Eyl, seal the town off and obliterate it. Read the incredible story of Presley O'Bannon to see why the land war component is so important. To this day, the Marine officers carry the Mameluke Sword. The Marines were invented precisely for this kind of war, and they should be applied to this piracy problem immediately.
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)....story is pretty cool, too.
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| parent )Kill more soon, please.
And along those same lines, going after the bases in Somalia isn't such a bad idea, either. I can't think of a better way to foster cooperation with the Russians than to team up with them in a pest extermination effort.
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)when i first heard the phrase "Indian warship"..
But this is excellent. These are waters that they should be helping in...
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| parent )as the lot here!
While not advocating TLC to pirates, I do not think it right for us to be engaged in summary executions/hangings/shoot at sight, in waters not under direct sovereignty, blue water Navy or no.
Must be my pirate ancestry coming out, seeing as we are next to the world's official piracy capital.
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| parent )We've all got pirates back in there, somewhere. My lot just did it on land and under a sovereign's flag. The part of the family crest dating back to the original Guerrero has a couple of bits celebrating the Sack of Jerusalem. :^)
I won't apologize for my ancestors, though. My suspicion is that most human beings born before about, say, 1600, would strike us all as right bastards. Morals are context specific, and Malthus has been in charge for most of human history.
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| parent )really that is - wink emoticon - in deference to HankP.
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| parent )An unarmed boat out in the middle of the ocean is practically defenseless. These pirates got what they deserved.
If the Indian Navy allows alcohol on their ships I would love to buy the gun crew a bottle of scotch or two.
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| parent )bleeding heart liberal that I am, I have no problem with killing someone in self defence. I also have no problem with not accepting surrender from non-uniformed attackers, especially on the high seas.
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| parent )I've never had a problem with self defense.
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| parent )..."no surrender from non-uniformed fighters" bit.
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| parent )are quite a different environment from being in a field or a desert or even one's own living room.
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| parent ). . .an unsavory critter or two swinging through the branches of our family tree if we look hard enough: that's no reason not to admit that it would have been just--if unfortunate for the cause of our future existence--if those rascals had ended up having a fatal encounter with a noose, executioner's axe, or a bayonet.
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| parent )Excellent initiative on their part, doing something the US should have done months ago.
A question, though: if we assault a vessel held by Somali pirates and some of them surrender, where do we put the prisoners? What civil rights do they have if they are moved to US soil? Will they be entitled to an criminal trial before a jury of Somali pirates? Do they have habeas rights?
Questions like these should be silly, but the are not at a time when CIA employees returning to US soil after completing a mission are subject to arrest by US marshals for alleged war crimes when they deplane.
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| parent )According to Wikipedia, INS Tabar is a Talwar-class frigate , Russian-built, quite new, armed to the teeth, and 124 meters long.
While it's hard to have much sympathy for pirates, whatever their origin, you have to really wonder exactly WTF the Somali "mothership" was thinking in "threatening to attack" Tabar: Russian construction or no, is a warship that size seriously vulnerable to machine-gun or RPG fire?
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| parent )It's conveniently located right next door.
And hey...we've got an in with 'em now!
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| parent )vessel they captured for trials, ritual beheadings etc.. The problem there is that the Saudi tanker, e.g., was probably Panamanian-flagged or somesuch. But hey, isn't Noriega up for parole soon?
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| parent )...in the flag nation of the ship they attacked.
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| parent )I always thought that, but my source may have been "Pirates of Penzance."
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| parent )If they're not part of ship's crew and not in littoral waters, they're always hanged.
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| parent )Hanging pirates who are, by geographical point of origin, likely to be rather dark skinned is going to lead to a lot of (unwarranted and pathetic) hand-wringing in some quarters. Just shoot them.
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| parent )The Law of the Sea says, to my understanding, that you simply are not required to take prisoners in any action against a group of persons who are committing piracy.
That would seem the simplest approach.
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| parent )for crimes against humanity the moment they set foot on American soil. And it's cold this time of year in The Hague.
Johnny Depp as character witness for the defense on a diminished capacity claim?
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| parent )would be one solution
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| parent )for all our problems.
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| parent ). . .against using it against *pirates*, even if it is the wrong solution for many other problems. Radiation therapy would be a lousy treatment for acne, but it's rather useful for a lot of cancer patients.
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| parent )I'd say that liberal support for this approach w/r/t piracy on the high seas lends credence to their argument against it elsewhere -- the idea is that the argument is not knee-jerk, but based around an actual assessment of the situation.
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| parent )Being the only example of an instance that has brought together US liberals and conservatives - made bedfellows of PM and BG and BN and MSE etc. We just need catchy to provide the academic imprimatur here.
As I said previously, I don't hold a brief for these guys. Equally, I really do not see how robbery and murder of innocents and civilians on the high seas is so uniquely different from robbery and murder of innocents and civilians on a highway. We don't advocate summary justice in the latter case, do we?
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| parent )...are inherently ungovernable, yet their transit is absolutely necessary for even the most rudimentary of economies to function smoothly.
They are easily the most extreme imaginable case for a location where the paradigms of the nation-state (territorial sovereignity, self-determination, and a monopoly on violence) are not possible to uphold.
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| parent )There was a pirate filter awhile back and things got pwetty jolly.
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not in favor of the Indian Navy killing everyone on pirate ships.
Where possible, they should be captured + tried. I understand that's often impractical and not required under international law.
But in cases where risk is low, IMO the Indian Navy or whomever should attempt to sort out if there are kidnap victims, minors, etc. onboard.
I might be willing to toss this opinion aside if other interested parties agree to plunk down 20% tips from here on out.
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| parent )They are literally violating no nation's laws -- because there are no laws!
You can't send them back to Somalia; there is no real government there to work with. Do we ship them to Panama with apologies? Or does the Indian Navy assert its right to do as it pleases with pirates, including try them if it sees fit to do so? Which is cool, but if they are convicted, do they serve in Indian prisons? Or military brigs?
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| parent )Return 'em if they're minors, kidnap victims, etc.
Not like I have a worked out view on the matter or anything, I just don't think the 'simplest' solution is necessarily the most just.
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| parent )cannot be a justification for shoot at sight. At the very minimum, the nations who use those shipping lanes owe it to their users to prescribe and enforce laws. That is the basis for law in all cases. I refer you to upthread for a discussion in the Guardian on the subject.
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| parent )And the issue of illegal fishing is a big one -- for similar reasons. But overfishing, as important as it is, is just not nearly as big a deal as the concept of global commerce.
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| parent )and so very deeply depressing. Global commerce isn't going to grind to a halt over this.
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| parent )Soylent Pirate, anyone? ]:-)
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| parent )if they're Somalis, or Liechtensteinians.
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| parent )Better and better.
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| parent )I heard on the radio this morning that India is trying to build some credibility for its status as an emerging power with these anti-piracy operations. Sounds good to me.
The great powers shouldn't be allowing this ransom to be paid. Send in the SAS or the SEALS or whatever special ops forces are available and kill them all.
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