Debates Post-Mortem: Do Debates Matter?
Polling the great unwashed appears to have shown a clear consensus: Obama won all three debates handily. Media commentators think otherwise, but they fetishize "strength" -- which is apparently defined as saying mean things to a 72 year-old man. Unfortunately for the pundit class, most Americans don't agree with that definition of strength.
But how much does it matter? Didn't the economy simply trump these other issues?
Four years ago a Pew Research center commentary said:
Historically, two factors distinguish those debates that have proven decisive in the election outcome. First, debates have had the greatest impact in close races, or in campaigns where the lead switched back and forth. Second, debates have been most influential in campaigns with unresolved questions about the personal character of one, or both, of the candidates. The upcoming Bush-Kerry debates would appear to fill the bill on both counts.In 1960 and 1980, as today, the polls showed a very tight race before the debates began. But John Kennedy's performance in 1960's first debate gave him a slight lead over Vice President Nixon, which Kennedy never relinquished. Ronald Reagan trailed Jimmy Carter 45%-42% three days before their Oct. 28 debate. But after a strong performance in that campaign's only debate, Reagan wiped away Carter's lead and subsequently surged to victory.
In the elections of 1984 and 1996, incumbent presidents (Reagan and Clinton) came into the debates with solid leads, while their opponents were desperately seeking momentum. But neither Walter Mondale in 1984, nor Bob Dole 12 years later, was able to produce the requisite miracle. Clinton retained his pre-debate edge and Reagan added to his advantage despite some stumbles in the first debate.
The result of these three debates feels to me like Reagan/Carter -- people were uncertain about Obama prior to the debates and his calm, professional demeanor reassured them. They were ready to vote Democratic or simply anti-incumbent, but needed to make sure that doing so wouldn't be a big mistake.
Had Obama done the eye-rolling and testy behavior, or acted like Gore in the 2000 debates, then I think his bump from the economic crisis would've gone flat. Since he's so new (and, yes, less experienced), he must seem extra-presidential. He might still have won -- it's just a year for democrats -- but there'd be a lot of nervous D's running up to election day.
Though, there's likely a bit of the Kennedy/Nixon vibe going here too. McCain just came off poorly on camera.
I think his campaign closing off the easy press access might be the biggest mistake -- they were overly worried about gaffes, which America doesn't really care about, and so they pulled McCain out of his area of expertise, sometimes sloppy but open communication with the press.
After that, all you have left is an awkward and sometimes angry-looking fellow delivering tired old scripted speeches -- and McCain always seemed much better at talking than at speeching.
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on a number of counts. Or at least, he let his advisors talk him into suppressing his own strong suits. Cozening media elites is one: shutting them out was a huge mistake.
Swinging right was another: McCain's great appeal was as a pragmatic moderate & "maverick", a reputation he's managed to erase in the past 10 weeks or so.
Running on "change". Well, McCain 2000 might have pulled it off. But swinging right, spouting Bush party line, and *then* trying to convince everyone you'll change the last 8 years? The public isn't buying it.
--Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH
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)The wonkosaurs pay close attention to these things, but this is rather like the Parable of the Lost Sheep. The good shepherd leaves his sheep in the fold to go in search of that which was lost.
The independents seem to have broken roughly 60/40 for Obama/McCain. There never were very many Independents to begin with. Republicans own and Democrats rent. Well, now that the Owners are being foreclosed, naturally they will drift into the Renter camp.
The debates try to lure in the Independents, but I don't know if they manage to do much except reinforce the base and provide talking points.
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)although "debates have had the greatest impact in close races" is nearly tautological.
I would say there are three things Americans look for in debates:
1. Temperament (forceful yet cool under fire)
2. Coherence (familiarity with issues & ability to tie them together into an understandable worldview)
3. Ideological buzzwords (does the candidate support my side of a controversy)
So what aren't viewers looking for? Pundits commit one error here, and partisans another.
Pundits, as you say, fetishize "strength", and tend to assign the win to whoever got the most punches in. They're like the guys who thought Foreman was destroying Ali in the Rumble in the Jungle -- they don't realize that what matters is the force of the punch. McCain clearly got off more attacks last night, but less than a third of independent voters scored the debate for him, because Obama's attacks were perceived as more legitimate & germane. McCain's sneering, obviously rattled responses & body language helped this perception. (I wouldn't be surprised if there were a significant pro-Obama difference in viewers who watched on a split screen. Really, McCain's reactions had to be seen to be believed.)
Partisans, on the other hand, focus on content and know exactly what they want to hear. I suspect that strongly partisan Democrats and Republicans each saw a better McCain performance last night than the average voter did. This is because McCain hit a lot more partisan buttons than Obama, and laced his remarks with buzzwords that are familiar to anyone who follows politics obsessively. To those who don't, though, such shorthand just seems confusing or vague. Of course everyone has political opinions, and wants a candidate who shares them, but they don't understand that (for example) when McCain invokes DC school vouchers or ethanol subsidies, he is referring to a much broader debate. (Obama's response to the school vouchers -- something like "Well, that's DC, but those of you in the other 50 states are out of luck" -- was pure evil genius, turning what is actually a substantive and important debate into a boutique issue, even a fetish.)
Obama, knowing that he needed first and foremost to reassure voters that he can be President while running to the center, focused on #1 and #2. McCain focused on #3, a transparent and awful strategic error, and confused flailing for forcefulness.
It was far and away McCain's worst performance. I was surprised the pundits & blogs didn't immediately pick up on that, but in retrospect I understand why.
--The other day I heard that ignorance and apathy are sweeping the country. I didn't know that, but I don't really care.
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)-- seemed to work well to me. It was the second two-thirds of the debate where he became Mr McTwitchy coupled to laying out the same line of failed attack points he's been using for the last two weeks where he dived.
In the post-debate CNN commentary Bennett was ecstatic about McCain's aggressive performance -- thought it was the bestest thing ever -- and made me think right there that Bennett is a writer raised on Norman Mailer with all the attendant illusions about "muscular" speaking styles.
A bit of armchair psychology here and speaking as a writer and academic nerd: but I've seen an awful lot of this prissy machismo from male intellectuals -- sitting in a seminar and watching pasty men of letters posture and talk aggressively.
We do not have a macho job. We sit on our butts and type or we talk -- so there's a substantial group of men who try to puff talking and writing up into being a macho exercise. Maybe we should go back a couple thousand years and do all our writing by chiseling into granite tablets -- that way at least we'd build up upper body strength.
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| parent )I suggest physically oriented hobbies.
--It's impossible to debate if people simply hold beliefs that have no grounding in reality.
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