Democracy 2.0


Bouncing off part of tomsyl's comment in another thread:

tomsyl wrote:
I think the odds of Congress ever morphing into something that actually will be focused on what the country needs are slim, but they are zero as long as the place is run by career politicians.

For some time I've wanted to think about this subject a little -- the core process of American Democracy has served pretty well, but it's also a very early edition of the "software", so to speak. One advantage countries that recently made the transition from autocracy to democracy have, is that they were able to set up their rules after seeing what worked and didn't work in other countries.

We certainly change the laws all the time, and add occasional amendments, but the core system of Judicial, Legislative, and Executive branches, as far as I know, has stayed pretty much the same. Other than term limits and VP no longer being the loser of the race, does anyone know of any major alterations?

There certainly have been de facto alterations, pushing more power from congress to the president -- but I think a big reason for that is because we're not really satisfied with how our process generates congress. We like checks & balances. We like our own reps/senators. But we loathe and have loathed for a long time congress as a whole.

My question here is "if we could re-vamp our basic rules and system, what changes do you think would be good?"

Presidency
For the presidency, I'm ambivalent about the change many people would suggest -- going from electoral vote to popular vote. I don't care for the game that makes a bunch of states quasi-irrelevant, but there's weird math about the relevance of any vote anyway -- and I can see some merit in small-population states getting the two additional electoral votes.

The change I would like is instant-runoff voting. I generally vote for the Democrat, but I think it'd be more fair if people voting for third party candidates didn't have to choose between feeling like they're wasting their vote, or even benefiting the person they like the least, when they vote for their true preference.

Congress
Other than major overhaul -- I can't even gesture at what I'd like here. But the mere fact that congress ALWAYS has horrible favorability ratings strikes me as a indication of a system that's not working.

In part, you've got a system that specifically rewards congressfolk for favoring their community at the expense of the nation -- so naturally everyone will dislike the congressfolk from all the other communities.

The house of reps also strikes me as an idea more suited to 1780, where you're born and die in the same small town, than 2008, where you live and work in different districts at the same time.

Do congressional districts serve much purpose beyond simply promoting more pork?

Supreme Court
I favor the concept of some check on the other two branches that protects the rules and watches out for abuses by the majority -- but I also can understand the worries about so much authority and weight getting thrown as this small group of people.

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There is one smaller reform --- (#132830)
by Punditus Maximus

The Civil Rights Acts prohibited multi-member districts for Congress. It seems to me that it would be easier to avoid gerrymander -- and the Courts could reasonably impose much stricter standards -- if states were given the flexibility to include, say, 3-member districts.

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Get rid of (#132370)
by catchy

the filibuster, electoral college, + 11 weeks of lame duck.

As I read about our attack into Syria, it would also be nice to live in a country where the pres. doesn't have more or less unconstrained powers to wage war.

I realize you can argue that the AUMF gave Bush a blank check. But even if Bush hadn't received the AUMF, he is essentially free to invade countries with which we are officially at peace.

Greater transparency is a start. One of Obama's positions... (#132316)
by Jordan

and something the Bush Administration worked assiduously to limit in a thousand ways, from sitting on EPA studies to Cheney's "Energy Group" to Guantanamo to the Justice Department.

The principle should be mandatory public disclosure of any and all acts of government, rule changes, decisions, etc., save certain espionage or national security matters.

Same goes for Congress: the legislative process should be clarified (like one provision, one bill) so that the media can report and the public can see exactly what Congressfolk are voting on. No more earmarks, no more tucking partial birth abortion language into Medicare laws, etc. etc.

Basically apply the "simplified tax code" principle to everything the government does.

It should be a built-in principle of the Constitution that citizens can quickly and easily figure out what their government is up to without requiring expert training and/or hours of research time.

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. -JH

Maybe it's the lead. (#132307)
by M Aurelius

I have this pet theory. Lead was added to gasoline in the 1920's, thanks mostly to GM and a chemist who then went on to invent CFCs (I'm not kidding). Lead was known then to be toxic and bad for the nervous system. Early manufacturing processes were so bad that the workers involved were basically toast in just a few months. But they decided to put this stuff into the air anyway; it saved money.

Although there were many cars in the 1920's, truly massive numbers of vehicles were not on the road till the late 1940's and then through the following decades people started driving more, abandoning the train, as the national highway system was built.

Lead began to be phased out in the 1970's, to considerable conservative protest, I might add. It was gone by the mid 80's, except in aviation fuel for small planes, where it is still used today. The amount of lead in the bloodstream of an average American dropped something like 50 times.

We've all seen the studies that relate criminality to lead exposure in inner cities. It takes about 20 years to see the effect. Politicians now in their 40's, 50's, and 60's had significant airborne lead exposure as children if they were from urban, suburban, or industrial areas.

So we very possibly have the dumbest, most irresponsible generation of men in over two centuries running the country. Note that the Chinese don't have this problem. At least not now.

If there is any truth to this, within ten to twenty years we might see a new generation of more lucid leaders. Of course we might be irreversibly broke by then. It is also harder to right a sinking, rotting ship than to launch a new one, but better days for Congress may yet arrive.

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I wouldn't (#132464)
by Elagabalus

push this theory too far. The lead was added because, due to its molten nature, it created a tighter seal for the intake/exhaust valves when the valves where in the fully closed position. This increased engine life because with a more complete seal the valves were less likely to overheat or "burn out". Manufacturing processes at the time were not yet exact enough to produce a completely sealed combustion chamber. Later in the 60's and 70's the additional lead acted like a secondly lubrication of sorts for the valve train and helped prevent premature wear on the valves and valve seats. That's why most classic muscle car owners still need to put in an additive w/ lead like properties with every full tank of gas. Also, Europe used gas "avec plomb" until 2000, IIRC so I'm not sure where that leaves your theory-of course you can still say that they were acting irresponsibly too. :)

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I'm not sure what your point is. (#132552)
by M Aurelius

The lead was added primarily as an anti-knock agent, to be able to raise the octane rating of cheaper grades of gas. The lubrication effect was entirely secondary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetra-ethyl_lead

Apparently violent crime tracks lead exposure with a 22 year time lag. Bad leadership should track it with a 50 year time lag, approximately. It doesn't just make you less intelligent; it makes you irresponsible.

Europe had far fewer cars than the US till the late 1960's. It was much poorer. Still, I do expect the same bad leadership signature in Europe, somewhat shifted forward (starting and ending later). Europe did ban lead paint about 50 years before the US did, but I'm not sure how much this helps.

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Of course not!

No point (#132581)
by Elagabalus

really, just a minor nit and... ah ...yes, I believe I said the lubrication effect was entirely secondary. And I didn't even need/use a wiki link. But thanks anyway!

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I had discovered a great secret. That everyone loves themselves more than they love anybody else. And if I wanted them to love me, I better be like THEM!... Ken Nordine

The Founding Fathers (insert 4 bars of reverential choral here) (#132297)
by BlaiseP

Set up our Republic with three branches of government, to harness the adversarial nature of power-hungry politicians.

What they could never have foreseen was the abject capitulation of all three branches.

Want social reforms? Don't ask the House of Representatives for that, the body intended to bring such interests to the fore, farm it out to the Supreme Court, then blame them for Legislating from the Bench.

Country needs to go to war? Don't ask the Senate to assume that awesome responsibility. Give the Executive a good running start so the war becomes a self-perpetuating thing.

Don't demand accountability from the Executive. Oh no. Blame him for all the failures, yes, but don't constrain him against any arrogation of power.

Got a problem with elections? Send it to the Supreme Court.

Yes, whenever a Large Problem emerges which might require leadership, keep tossing the grenade back and forth down Pennsylvania Avenue, and when all else fails, some completely irrelevant branch of government will step in to give us some goofy-ass solution nobody will like and nobody wanted.

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