Primatology 2 -- The Pundits
Bill Maher was on The Daily Show last night complaining that Obama didn't do enough jabbing and counter-punching in the debate. One need only look at Bill Maher to wonder how much jabbing and counter-punching he's done in his life...
Regardless, this sentiment is something I've heard quite a bit of from the commentary class. It was interesting to watch the post-debate discussion -- for the first 15-30 minutes there was a cautious consensus in this regard -- but I could see the pundits hedging their bets because they knew the polls would be coming in and didn't want to throw their weight too heavily behind an analysis that would be proven false.
Also, I'm not sure how gender biased it was since I was watching CNN and they kept talking over Campbell Brown (a phenomena common in graduate seminars too).
Then the polls came out and the pundits tried to spin it, albeit subtly, as an audience less knowledgeable than them. In reality, the very thing they were praising, McCain forcefully repeating that Obama's naive and doesn't understand, and Obama being deferential, was exactly what worked in Obama's favor.
And this is the thing I don't get -- in a debate saying that your opponent is a loser is considered strong and masculine by these guys. I can just imagine Buster Douglas thinking that if only he had managed to call Holyfield some names that he could've held onto that elusive title belt for a little while longer.
I can say anything. Saying something requires no particular exertion or physical training, and insulting someone, especially in the pedestrian way most political debaters insult, doesn't even require any mental training. It demonstrates no courage -- they're not in a bar; they're surrounded by Secret Service guys.
In a barely related point, I've seen a fair bit of criticism of both candidates because they don't present their big ideas for handling the bailout.
Neither of them really can.
If McCain puts forward his idea for sliced bread, the democrats have to kill it because that'd prove he had the right idea. And if Obama came up with this round wheel idea, then the Republicans would have to kill that.
So by telling people their good idea they effectively kill them off in the womb, leaving us with square wheels and crooked toast.
Obama/McCain could work out some joint plan in theory and advance that -- but then I wouldn't really see the point in it being them doing this. Republicans in congress don't even like McCain that much (and I'm sure they're coming to realize that they won't need to stay on his good side) so he's got little pull, and neither of them have had as much time to think about this as the committees who've been working for the last couple weeks or longer.
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spend a long weekend together and negotiate a compromise to the bail-out stand-off.
After all, if John McCain does win, Obama shall remain the leader of his party. And vice versa.
America needs those two to get along.
--Fence post turtles -- They don't get up there by themselves, some moron had to put 'em there.
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)They were overly impressed with McCain's jabs, and not impressed enough by Obama's willingness to agree with McCain.
The first is simple. You better make sure the guy you're saying 'doesn't understand' is actually acting like, you know, he doesn't understand. Because Obama was thoughtful and well-spoken, McCain's jabs seemed gratuitous and unearned. They hurt him with independent and Dem voters.
The second is pretty simple too. Folks like the idea that Obama showed something close to, however artificially, bipartisan spirit. It made him seem mature and willing to acknowledge other points of view. Again, this helped him with independent and Dem voters.
Who'da thunk it? The guy who acted like an adult did better than the guy who acted like an angry monkey.
--To think is not enough; you must think of something -- Jules Renard
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)saying that you're more capable of reaching across the aisle to the other party while simultaneously refusing to look at or credit your opponent for anything causes rather blatant cognitive dissonance.
--I blame it all on the Internet
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| parent )Like most bullies, the Senior Senator is a bit of a coward. It will be interesting to see if he can fake appropriate human emotion at the town hall, a place where his recent panoply of tics, snarls, growls, and emotional pathologies will be far harder to hide.
From a CQ blog.
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| parent )Latest CBS/NY Times poll shows Obama with his highest positives ever, McCain with his highest negatives ever.
Hey. Maybe emotional instability, free-floating anger, and unearned arrogance DO have a price. That would be cool.
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| parent )After all, its not an either/or question, and McCain is the moron who put Sarah Palin on top of a fence post (as in "fence post turtle")
--Fence post turtles -- They don't get up there by themselves, some moron had to put 'em there.
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| parent )The Editorial meeting with the Des Moines-Register a terrible idea. First, McCain has no chance in Iowa. Second, this is a very liberal editorial board. Third, who cares about editorial boards?
And fourth, the resulting video, showing McCain to be pissy, angry, and dishonest probably didn't help. And what the hell was he doing in Iowa anyway?
Fire Schmidt?
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| parent )And he started turning pissy for no significant reason.
I watched the 60 minute version and he starts out angry -- but I think that was intended to show that he's mad as hell about the economy and going to do something about it.
But then when they question him on Palin he turns surly against them. Surely he's heard those exact same questions hundreds of times already (though maybe that's part of the issue). Those aren't particularly partisan questions -- and Iowa ain't a hotbed of radical lefties.
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