Consequences arise out of the creating character of God as the flow of His creating determinism ( that is not in any way to be confounded with the lie of non-creating determinism ) toward the absolute goal of completion of His predetermined counsel.
God has given up part of His free will concerning us ( in the swearing of oaths and giving of promises as well in the character of His Word as being unable to lie ) , yet is absolutely free in total reality to create in any way He chooses to complete His promises and is not at all restrained to the fulfilling of the promises within the frame of reference man has in non-creating speech and its limitations about either total reality or their interpretation of what He "meant". His giving up part of His free will, then still leaves Him all powerful, all knowing, omnipresent and Creating.

While those deceived they have free will are used to dogmatically state "if there is no free will, good and evil make no sense." and to imply that good and evil cannot exist minus the existence of the free will of man, in truth, the lie of free will covers over the actual perpetrators of evil and good while seeking to define all of total reality as if reality were that ideal environment in which free will could and thus must exist for its own sake. All that has been done is to simply state for thousands of years, "Men have free will!" and then no matter what evidence to the contrary by God given to man, build a whole lying theology in non-creating speech in multiple religions based on the presumed fact of that "free" will of man in exactly the same manner the foundational philosophical/occult underpinnings of modern mathematics were simply stated and mathematics has since then, sought to measure everything as supposedly reproving but in fact just restating the initial statements that were never real, simply made up. They seem to make sense within the circle of their own statements, yet have never been true, but have been real as a lie.

1. Sin is a living creature all of whose works are evil. Sin is not a synonym for evil. As living in the flesh of even new creatures in Jesus Christ, sin does evil; it is not the new creature in Jesus Christ who does the evil. Yet because the flesh of the new creature in Jesus Christ is our own, as belonging to us, we are to ask forgiveness for what sin does through the flesh and are in no way are exempted from the Law in so doing.

That sin as a living creature is doing the evil and not the new creature in Jesus Christ:

Romans 7:14-25 For we know that the law is spiritual: but *I* am fleshly, sold under sin. For that which I do, I do not own: for not what I will, this I do; but what I hate, this I practise. But if what I do not will, this I practise, I consent to the law that it is right. Now then it is no longer *I* that do it, but the sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, good does not dwell: for to will is there with me, but to do right I find not. For I do not practise the good that I will; but the evil I do not will, that I do. But if what *I* do not will, this I practise, it is no longer *I* that do it, but the sin that dwells in me. I find then the law upon *me* who will to practise what is right, that with *me* evil is there. For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man: but I see another law in my members, warring in opposition to the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which exists in my members. O wretched man that I am ! who shall deliver me out of this body of death? I thank God, through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then *I* *myself* with the mind serve God's law; but with the flesh sin's law.

2. evil than cannot be a "choice" or a mere act of a free willed creature because the necessary environment in which free will could operate ( one of whom is, sin not being a living creature and another, the necessity of there existing in total reality only will-neutral speech.. ) does not exist.

a. in a lie that sin IS a mere act, those who teach such false doctrines hold simultaneously to the lie that fallen man and the new creature in Jesus Christ ( are essentially the same creature and "as such" ..) are captive to sin and then confound all their followers with the truth that none can save himself as mixing the lies they teach with just enough truth to give them credibility --to those deceived they must "decide truth for themselves"/free willers. Yet even that is plainly contradictory in that none can be a slave of an act that has yet to happen before it happens ( at all, much less..) simultaneously deny determinism/lack of free will simultaneously. Yet that is exactly what we are expected to believe when the false teachers say 'sin is a mere act.' and "men have free will" ... and men are slaves of sin and thus need salvation and even the new creature in Jesus Christ is a sinner as part of their fundamental being even after the new birth.

The very basis of salvation is at least two fold, in that salvation from sin and the spiritual death as regards union with God caused by sin is necessary as well as new birth in Jesus Christ. To then make sin a mere act and unavoidable even after new birth while denying creating determinism is a very plain lie.

God Says that after our new birth, ( as separating us from sin in participating on the cross with Christ as He imputes to us His death as making it real and as yet making our new birth in Him real ) that we cannot sin:

1John 3:6-9 Whoever abides in him, does not sin: whoever sins, has not seen him or known him. Children, let no man lead you astray; he that practises righteousness is righteous, even as *he* is righteous. He that practises sin is of the devil; for from the beginning the devil sins. To this end the Son of God has been manifested, that he might undo the works of the devil. Whoever has been begotten of God does not practise sin, because his seed abides in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been begotten of God.

God as well says that:

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Sin understood to be a living creature that lives in our flesh makes any apparent contradiction vanish. Our flesh will be corrupt until the day we leave it on this earth. But we are not our flesh.

Romans 8:9-10 But *ye* are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed God's Spirit dwell in you; but if any one has not the Spirit of Christ *he* is not of him: but if Christ be in you, the body is dead on account of sin, but the Spirit life on account of righteousness.

Yet we have the witness of God that sin is a living creature as He mentions both sin as having desires and acting and as the flesh as having a mind and will of its own:

**sin desiring and acting and commonly in the flesh of all men:

1.Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, will not thy countenance look up with confidence ? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door; and unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Romans 7:10,11 And the commandment, which was for life, was found, as to me, itself to be unto death: for sin, getting a point of attack by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me .

Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted its way on the earth. ( even Noah's flesh )

**flesh having a will and mind of its own as distinct from man and commonly among all flesh:

John 1:11-13 He came to his own, and his own received him not; but as many as received him, to them gave he the right to be children of God, to those that believe on his name; who have been born, not of blood, nor of flesh's wil, nor of man's will, but of God.

Romans 8:6 For the mind of the flesh is death; but the mind of the Spirit life and peace.

**Works of the flesh and the reality the flesh fights against the Spirit of God in the new creature in Jesus Christ:

Galatians 5:16-18 But I say, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall no way fulfil flesh's lust. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these things are opposed one to the other, that ye should not do those things which ye desire; but if ye are led by the Spirit, ye are not under law.

Galatians 5:19-26 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strifes, jealousies, angers, contentions, disputes, schools of opinion, envyings, murders, drunkennesses, revels, and things like these; as to which I tell you beforehand, even as I also have said before, that they who do such things shall not inherit God's kingdom. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, fidelity, meekness, self-control: against such things there is no law. But they that are of the Christ have crucified the flesh with the passions and the lusts. If we live by the Spirit, let us walk also by the Spirit. Let us not become vain-glorious, provoking one another, envying one another.

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Those seeking to explain spiritual and obviously wicked manifestations through the flesh have no explanation, even in non-creating speech when they see sin as a mere "act" and men with free will. They are witnesses themselves:

to the on-going nature of evil

and yet have tied that on-going nature to ..the free will of Man. Plainly, no matter how much "holy information" Men have received over the eons, wickedness remains. Seeking to tie evil to the free "choice"/expression of will of Man not only is a pretense in that ignores the very part of reality which provokes the response ( non-creating speech as sin doing evil ) but literally seeks to do away with even the noticing by Men of spiritual realities at all. To merely ignore the problem in no way makes it go away. Yet in sin, that is exactly what non-creating speech causes man to do (ignore the problem ) and in ignorance of the reality of what is happening to them, to become old, even ancient in lies that are both self-invalidating and nonsensical in their attempt to keep ignoring evil coming out of themselves and other creatures and to merely appeal to the age of the lies and their frequency of statement they speak as "evidence" of evil being a result of the free will of man.

All false religions, despite the forced protestations of certain adherents to certain of systems, ( as a religious rule they must follow to advance in their system) have evil beings as part of their pantheon and the free will of Man. All are witness to the ongoing nature of evil to this day and have no answer as to why the supposed free willed actions of billions of unique creatures who are all yet human coincide so exactly as evil through all eras of history, maturity levels, educational levels and age groups. Wherefore the on-going nature of evil if man can simply educate his way out of evil or simply "will" himself no to do evil?

God plainly states:

Jeremiah 13:22,23 And if thou say in thy heart, Wherefore come these things upon me? For the greatness of thine iniquity are thy skirts uncovered, and thy heels have suffered violence. Can an Ethiopian change his skin, or a leopard his spots? Then may ye also do good, who are accustomed to do evil.

And

Jeremiah 10:23,24 I know, Jehovah, that the way of man is not his own; it is not in a man that walketh to direct his steps. Jehovah, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing.

Christianity stands alone in plainly rescuing man from sin as a living creature in the new birth in Jesus Christ and in declaring the total lack of free will of all creatures and in declaring an on-going battle against sin in the flesh of those no longer one with sin as a total creature. As well, Christianity stands alone in plainly stating God IS His Word, and that the Name of the Word of God is Jesus Christ and as distinct from non-creating speech.

Those who seek to explain good and evil in term of human free will must ignore evil as it actually exists, falsely idealize it seem to have encapsulated it and then manipulate their false idealizations in a vain show at "doing something" and "going somewhere" ..in free will. Yet what they do is evil.

Psalm 49:13 This their way is their folly, yet they that come after them delight in their sayings. Selah.

To Christians in particular, I ask; if what we do is all a matter of free will, the why were the angels addressed as being the lights of the seven churches? Why were they told that if they did not repent then they as lamps would be taken away? What do they have to do with anything if good and evil is simply about rules to be followed in the free will of man?

Revelation2:1-7 To the angel of the assembly in Ephesus write: These things says he that holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lamps: I know thy works and thy labour, and thine endurance, and that thou canst not bear evil men ; and thou hast tried them who say that themselves are apostles and are not, and hast found them liars; and endurest, and hast borne for my name's sake, and hast not wearied: but I have against thee, that thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works: but if not, I am coming to thee, and I will remove thy lamp out of its place, except thou shalt repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the works of the Nicolaitanes, which *I* also hate. He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies. To him that overcomes, I will give to him to eat of the tree of life which is in the paradise of God.

Revelation 3:1,2 And to the angel of the assembly in Sardis write: These things saith he that has the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars: I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things that remain, which are about to die, for I have not found thy works complete before my God.

Why are we also told that we will be judging the angels if good and evil is simply a matter of the free will of men --and/or of angels?

Will you then say merely "because they didn't use their free will properly? As a supposed basis of judgment at all?

Judgment itself is based on sinning against God:

Psalm 51:3,4 For I acknowledge my transgressions, and my sin is continually before me. Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done what is evil in thy sight; that thou mayest be justified when thou speakest, be clear when thou judgest.

And yet God makes very plain there is no free will involved:

Romans 9:10-29 And not only that , but Rebecca having conceived by one, Isaac our father, the children indeed being not yet born, or having done anything good or worthless (that the purpose of God according to election might abide, not of works, but of him that calls), it was said to her, The greater shall serve the less: according as it is written, I have loved Jacob, and I have hated Esau. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Far be the thought. For he says to Moses, I will shew mercy to whom I will shew mercy, and I will feel compassion for whom I will feel compassion. So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God that shews mercy. For the scripture says to Pharaoh, For this very thing I have raised thee up from amongst men , that I might thus shew in thee my power, and so that my name should be declared in all the earth. So then, to whom he will he shews mercy, and whom he will he hardens. Thou wilt say to me then, Why does he yet find fault? for who resists his purpose? Aye, but thou, O man, who art *thou* that answerest again to God? Shall the thing formed say to him that has formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Or has not the potter authority over the clay, out of the same lump to make one vessel to honour, and another to dishonour? And if God, minded to shew his wrath and to make his power known, endured with much long-suffering vessels of wrath fitted for destruction; and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he had before prepared for glory, us, whom he has also called, not only from amongst the Jews, but also from amongst the nations? As he says also in Hosea, I will call not-my-people My people; and the-not-beloved Beloved. And it shall be, in the place where it was said to them, *Ye* are not my people, there shall they be called Sons of the living God. But Esaias cries concerning Israel, Should the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, the remnant shall be saved: for he is bringing the matter to an end, and cutting it short in righteousness; because a cutting short of the matter will the Lord accomplish upon the earth. And according as Esaias said before, Unless the Lord of hosts had left us a seed, we had been as Sodom, and made like even as Gomorrha.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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