All Hail the new Moderators!

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Congratulations to the new mods! The final results are in, and they are:

Harley - 34
tomsyl - 33
Traveller - 29

Open Thread - Changing of the Guard edition 6/15/07

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For all you kids who say I link to too much old stuff - Green Day!


This is my last open thread diary, so I've tried to include excessive linkiness for everyone.

So much for Kentucky being a red state.

Herding Rabid Cats

At the moment the main goal of the U.S. is to extricate itself from Iraq and leave behind a state. It's a bit far from the original goal of pluralism, religious freedom, and liberal democracy, but an Iraq that manages to not become a Salafi state and not fall to a reinvigorated Ba'ath party may yet count as a non-loss as far as things are concerned.

But even this modest goal may be a bit difficult.

After all, the latest Iraq sitrep is that:

Summer History Reading for Boys

Its that time of year again, where every decent Middle School and High School posts its summer reading lists, some optional, some required. Typically these lists are full of worthwhile literature, that is going to go entirely unappreciated by any but a tiny minority. My problem with them is that they usually seem entirely tone-deaf to the interests and nature of boys. You will not sneakily convert a boy into a life-long self-educating reader if you hand them something by Toni Morrison.

And then there is the matter of history - the schools, as far as I can see, do a positively dreadful job of teaching history, and the only way out of that is self-education.

Open Thread: The Fading Days Of Spring

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Translation of the panicky gender feminists noted by Dr. Helen here: "Waaaah! He's not looking at MEEEEEE like that--and he might winnnnn!"

Having thrown that across the threshold, have at it.

A while back someone asked a

question which apparently wasn't answered (er, there was no update). Here is the answer.

Some might ask why now?

The simple retort is, why not?

Is this the "progress" we have been hearing about?

I just cannot see how this development can be spun in any positive way:

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- Turkish troops crossed into northern Iraq early Wednesday to chase Kurdish guerrillas who attack Turkey from bases there, three Turkish security officials said. Turkey's foreign minister denied its troops had entered Iraq.

The senior security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media, characterized the raid as a "hot pursuit" raid that was limited in scope. They told The Associated Press it did not constitute the kind of large incursion that Turkish leaders have been discussing in recent weeks.

Upcoming elections

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The final list of candidates is:

Bernard Guerrero
Bill White
Bird Dog
M. Scott Eiland
Punditus Maximus
Spin Doctor
Steve Malynn

I will be posting the voting form tonight, please let me know ASAP if you are on the list and don't want to stand for election!


Just a reminder, our last elections were held on 12/16/06 for six month terms. Using my godlike powers, I decree that our new elections will be held during the period 6/11/07 to 6/17/07. Polling will close at 12 noon on 6/17/07 so that I can tally the votes, alert the winners, transfer moderator rights etc. on that Sunday.

How Not to Be Popular (Open thread) Our Missing Soldiers

...ain't nobody going like me for posting this...and maybe you shouldn't look.

But pictures have surfaced today purporting to be our missing soldiers taken in the ambush South of Baghdad about three weeks ago. Be warned, this is tough to look at.

I might also note that some experts say that if we leave Iraq the blood bath will reach a million dead.

To which I say...let them have at it.

We're gone.

Please consider this an Open Thread for happier topics.

Best Wishes,


Some muttering on “the will of the American people”

There are many war opponents out and about on the internet who, rather than argue what they believe, turn to polling in order to buttress their opposition to the war. They call on Congress to compel the President to carry out “the will of the American people”. The idea being that since Americans no longer want to be involved in Iraq we are justified in abandoning the battlefield. Never mind that we live in a representative democracy and not a direct democracy like ancient Athens, polls are polls and politicians should abide by them. Well, it will be interesting to see if they change their tune now that another proposal has recently proven to be even less popular than the war. Only a whooping 26% support the proposed immigration bill in the Senate. Whether they agree with the Senate bill or not, in order to be intellectually consistent the calls on Congress to carry out “the will of the American people” to spike this bill should arise from those same quarters that use this justification to pull out of Iraq. Will they? I for one doubt it because I suspect those who decry the “will of the American people” when it supports their side are just as likely to cram legislation down the American people’s throats when legislation they support is in disagreement with said ‘will’. If my suspicions prove to be true then using “the will of the American people” in your argument is nothing more than an appeal to me-too-ism to push a certain point of view rather than an actual conviction, and as such is not a valid tool to support arguments with.

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